andybarton Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share #21 Posted November 11, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) sorry to hear that, I never had a probelm with Katseye screens, on my D200/300/700 and D3x. But shit happens ....... The other point is that it can happen (and in my experience it was often the case) that the screen is not perfectly aligned with the AF, so that you will get irritating results. I had may D3x 3 times in the Nikon service till they got a perfect calibration. This said, the D800e fokusses extremley well manually with the focus point so i will not install a Katzeye on it. I used the D700 today and I'm not convinced its focussing properly. I looks like it is in the viewfinder, but the images when viewed on the Mac are a little soft. I will need to send it to Nikon to get them to put it all right with a new standard screen. The KatsEye really doesn't offer any improvement at all anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robsteve Posted November 12, 2012 Share #22 Posted November 12, 2012 Andy: Though it's not related to your final results, I found on my D800E there needed to be a battery in the camera for the manual focus to work. My guess is something is set into alignment when the battery is in the camera. In regards to the stock screen, at least on the D800E, it seems terrible for manual focusing but when I shot my son's basketball game this past weekend, I had asked many in focus as I would with my DMR. I was using the 180mm f3.4 APO. I finally decided to move on from the DMR like you and took a D800E and the Nikkors 50mm and 85mm f1.8 Get in trade for one of my Leica lenses. One thing about my old Leica glass is it seemed to have retained its value. I will be selling some of it that will not work on the D800E and converting the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share #23 Posted November 12, 2012 Rob The D700 will not focus without a battery either. The whole screen is completely blurred - this was a bit of a shock the first time I picked it up without a battery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted November 12, 2012 Share #24 Posted November 12, 2012 Andy, I am intrigued by your comment that the Katzeye screen is no better than the standard. Are you using the focus confirmation system with the manual focus lenses? I put a Beattie split image screeen in a film F90 (easy to do on that of course) and like it better than the confirmation LEDs Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share #25 Posted November 12, 2012 Yes, it has the split in the centre of the screen and I use the focus confirmation with my R lenses. Teh best focussing screen I have ever used was the one in my OM2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted November 19, 2012 Share #26 Posted November 19, 2012 Andy, first AF fine tune if it is a Nikon lens, or just use magnified live view from a tripod. Then turn the hex screw in the bottom right corner of the mirror box. It takes a 1.5 mm hex. Turn 1 degree at a time as this raises and lowers the mirror. When you get done, Nikon AF, manual focus with live view, green dot, Katz Eye split all will agree perfectly. The issue is the Katz Eye is not exactly the same thickness as the Nikon so when it goes in, you effectively moved the screen. Most people will not notice, but there are people who do. Pro Nikon bodies have this nut. D200, D3, D4, D800 all are so equipped. D600, D7000 is not so the only way to compensate is to change out shims. Also I have yet to see a Nikon that was set perfectly from the factory. I just adjusted my D3, so that may actually be the root cause , not a different screen thickness . I am not about to put a micrometer on the soft screen to figure it out. NEVER adjust the mirror stops. You will screw up the top and bottom focus points and alter the camera viewing slightly. This is not a proper fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted November 19, 2012 Share #27 Posted November 19, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Toby, I presume that this adjustment is changing the register of the screen in relation to the sensor to cope with a difference in thickness between the Katzeyes screen and the Nikon one? Coincidentally, I have just bought a D7000, and its gone straight back to the dealer because the AF (and the focus confirmation for MF) was backfocussing. So it does happen with other makes The D7000 costs about one15% of an M price though. According to the salesman 'quite a rare problem in Nikons, more so with Canon' Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted November 19, 2012 Share #28 Posted November 19, 2012 A family member bought a D7000 and AF fine tune required -18 to make it focus properly with a lens that worked on my Nikons. The pro bodies have tighter tolerences. Associated Photo in Morton Grove repaired the back focus under warrantee so that the the camera now requires no AF fine tune adjustment for the same lens. 5 day turn around. My Nikons will go there for work from now on. I am assuming there is a screen thickness difference and that was the problem as small as it was. If I were to buy a Nikon, the D600 is out because it does not have the adjustment. I am extremely pleased I am able to adjust so the AF, screen, green dot,and live view so all are perfect at the same time. The green dot does not work with the AF system. It seems to work with the screen to my surprise. I would have to fiddle more to be sure and I am leaving perfection alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share #29 Posted November 20, 2012 Andy, first AF fine tune if it is a Nikon lens, or just use magnified live view from a tripod. Then turn the hex screw in the bottom right corner of the mirror box. It takes a 1.5 mm hex. Turn 1 degree at a time as this raises and lowers the mirror. Thanks, but I think I have had enough of messing around in a mirror box where I shouldn't have gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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