innerimager Posted March 17, 2007 Share #1 Posted March 17, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I may go with a new M7 over the new M6 TTL I just bought, (store exchange) and use the $500 gift certificate for ....? one thought is applying it to the motor winder. Does it do the job very well with acceptable noise? I am fairly set on lenses, with a possible exception or two (75 APO, 135). Unless I'm sure I want to apply $500 to something i will use, I'm better off getting a used M7. Thanks for your thoughts....Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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charlesphoto99 Posted March 18, 2007 Share #2 Posted March 18, 2007 I love the Motor Winder, though find I really only use it when shooting professionaly. For just walking around I find it to be a bit heavy. It's fairly quiet (quieter than the M8 imo) and in most situations people won't even notice. It does give a bit of a kickback to the shutter release but one gets used to that pretty quickly (don't fight it!). Not a speed demon but that's not what Ms are about anyway. If you're used to working with a motor or and/or need one than you'll probably like this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share #3 Posted March 18, 2007 If you're used to working with a motor or and/or need one than you'll probably like this one. That's the thing Charles,I'm brand new to film, used to shooting DSLR's at from 3 to 8 frames/sec capability. I'm not looking to machine gun, but it might be nice to have this. There are situations where I can see getting a shot I would have missed without it, but I'm far from convinced. Your experience was helpful to hear, thank you.....Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe D. Posted March 18, 2007 Share #4 Posted March 18, 2007 Hi Peter, one thought is applying it to the motor winder. Does it do the job very well with acceptable noise? I am fairly set on lenses, with a possible exception or two (75 APO, 135). Unless I'm sure I want to apply $500 to something i will useI love this Motor M too. I have 2 of them. Most specialy because of the grip... and to spare my thumb. The noise is no more like Leica M, but is M8 equivalent @ 1.5 f/sec, that is not too much dB. For the speed & silence, i better use the beautiful Leicavit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted March 18, 2007 Share #5 Posted March 18, 2007 I was ready to buy the motor wind until Stunsworth was kind enough to demo the Leicavit. Amazingly simple and effective solution, that is just as quick and avoids the problem of using batteries. I'll pick one up soon. Thanks again Steve. (Remind me - was it an Abrahamson, or a Leica?). Rolo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted March 18, 2007 Rolo- That Leicavit looks good, but it would appear there is no way to have a handle attached along with it. If that's the case, it's a no go for me as I really rely on a handle. I have a handle now, and with the motor wind of course it's on the unit. If I'm wrong, please let me know. thanks....Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyrab Posted March 18, 2007 Share #7 Posted March 18, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) The one advantage the motor has over the Leicavit is the ability to still focus while shooting, it's what swayed it for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share #8 Posted March 18, 2007 The leica site makes the following comment about using the motor M. "It cannot be used in conjunction with lenses that employ viewfinder attachments." What are they referring to? Certainly not external viewfinders, yes? Is it things like macro/bellows sorts of attachments that the handle interferes with? Thanks....Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 18, 2007 Share #9 Posted March 18, 2007 Lenses with M3 specs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe D. Posted March 18, 2007 Share #10 Posted March 18, 2007 The leica site makes the following comment about using the motor M. "It cannot be used in conjunction with lenses that employ viewfinder attachments." The question should be: "witch ones?"Or is it a big joke ? I just try a Summaron 35 with google (also the M3 one), on a M6 with Motor M, we have just 0.2mm space to the grip, but 0.2mm room enough. For the Summicron Nah (DR) you have to put/remove the spectacles when the lens is on. So what ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share #11 Posted March 18, 2007 Thanks folks, clearly a "not to worry" issue! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budrichard Posted March 18, 2007 Share #12 Posted March 18, 2007 I have an M3 with 35 2.0 RF, 50 DR and 135 2.8 RF as well as M6 and M7 both with motor M's. You can in fact use ANY RF lens with goggles on an M with Motor M. What you cannot do is to remove the RF lens when attached to the camera without removing the motor because rotating the RF lens to remove cause contact with the Motor M handgrip. I use the Motor M's exclusively with the M6 and M7 and wouldn't be without them. There are two settings, the I position is very quiet and the II position is not that much noisier. With the M7 and Motor M, all you have to do is worry about focus. BTW, be aware that there is also an older M Winder that ones finds for sale, the Motor M and M Winder are two different things.-Dick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mym6is12 Posted March 18, 2007 Share #13 Posted March 18, 2007 I've just received one of the #14408 Motor M's from Ffordes supposedly Mint-. The grip wobbles ( front-back and side-side ), and the plastic is slightly parted at base next to the grip joint. I've read that this is a weak point in the design: swinging the camera around with heavy lenses causes too much stress. It looks like a tiny M1.5 screw, just under the take-up wheel, has to take all the stress. I think I will return it - and try to find one that's had a more considerate owner. The one they sent is in the #0078X series. Is there a point in the production where design improvements were made ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share #14 Posted March 18, 2007 Very encouraging, Dick. In light of the subsequent post, can I infer that you believe heavier lenses like the noctilux and 75 lux live happily together with the motor M without sacrificing a secure body without flex? thanks....Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share #15 Posted March 19, 2007 Just had a thought. Please don't laugh...just say yes. It occurs that this unit automatically rewinds the film? If it has rewind, can you tell it to rewind any time you want, midway in the roll if you want to change film iso or for other reasons? What a significant workflow plus in many situations if it's the case. best....Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share #16 Posted March 19, 2007 did some poking around and got my answer, no rewind... to bad. The amount of shutter shake and the tension on the shutter seems a potential concern, I guess I have to feel one for myself. Would using a softy on the release help here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boilerdoc Posted March 22, 2007 Share #17 Posted March 22, 2007 I love mine. It works fine with my 135/2.8 with goggles - just is a close fit. I have the Lecia vit but can't seem to figure out how to shoot a portrait format and work it at same time. It is very quiet. I used at a ballet at Christmas from front row without bothering anyone. And being bale to focus and shoot is a great advantage. Get the Motor M and live happily ever after. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share #18 Posted March 22, 2007 Get the Motor M and live happily ever after.Steve Sounds like sage advise. I'm on the e-bay hunt even as we speak! For me, coming from DSLR only, then M8, it makes sense, especially as I decided to return my M6 and get an M7. I want my film shooting to be as similar to, and utilize what I've learned from my digital experience, including and particularly the M8. So the M7's AE which I am very quick at compensating for is the first step. More rapid acquisition without having to think about advancing film fits right in. best....Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted March 22, 2007 Share #19 Posted March 22, 2007 Peter: I have a motor M I might part with. Email me through the user info here if you are interested in it. Since I got the M8, I can't see using it on the M7 anymore. I also have a couple of the RapidWinders, so can alwyas fit one of them if I want faster winding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share #20 Posted March 22, 2007 e-mail sent, Rob. Thanks...Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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