erg Posted March 13, 2007 Share #1 Posted March 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was hoping that DNG support in OSX 10.4.9 would include M8 for Aperture. Unfortunately there is still no support for M8 DNG files in Aperture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Hi erg, Take a look here No M8 DNG support after OSX 10.4.9 update. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest sirvine Posted March 13, 2007 Share #2 Posted March 13, 2007 I was hoping that DNG support in OSX 10.4.9 would include M8 for Aperture. Unfortunately there is still no support for M8 DNG files in Aperture. Face it, Apple hates us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 13, 2007 Share #3 Posted March 13, 2007 Or, Apple have it in for Adobe... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted March 14, 2007 Share #4 Posted March 14, 2007 I think it's more like Apple is waiting for the next firmware update before updating Aperture At least that's what I hope the hold up is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsh Posted March 14, 2007 Share #5 Posted March 14, 2007 Ya'll be patient. It will happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac11 Posted March 14, 2007 Share #6 Posted March 14, 2007 My guess also on a tug of war between Apple and Adobe, with their respective photo programs, Aperture and Lightroom. Maybe supporting DNG be seen, within Apple, as giving in to Adobe. Personally, I am only a gadgeteer, but 'DNG' is only an open standard as much as how widely it is accepted by all the softwares inclu Aperture. Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eronald Posted March 14, 2007 Share #7 Posted March 14, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am seeing major color changes from release to release of the firmware. Maybe Apple is doing the only sane thing and waiting for changes to be frozen before they commit to support ? Otherwise they'll have to support various renderings for different firmware types - a BIG headache ! Edmund My guess also on a tug of war between Apple and Adobe,with their respective photo programs, Aperture and Lightroom. Maybe supporting DNG be seen, within Apple, as giving in to Adobe. Personally, I am only a gadgeteer, but 'DNG' is only an open standard as much as how widely it is accepted by all the softwares inclu Aperture. Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJames Posted March 14, 2007 Share #8 Posted March 14, 2007 I was hoping that DNG support in OSX 10.4.9 would include M8 for Aperture. Unfortunately there is still no support for M8 DNG files in Aperture. Shame on Apple for upgrading their software... 10.x.x was not good enough... Where is their "Easy Button"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Maio Posted March 14, 2007 Share #9 Posted March 14, 2007 DigiLux-3 RAW files are now supported in 10.4.9 Aperture: Benefits included with the Mac OS X 10.4.9 Update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted March 14, 2007 Share #10 Posted March 14, 2007 My guess also on a tug of war between Apple and Adobe... Once again I have to be the messenger and will probably get flamed. It has nothing to do with Apple vs. Adobe! It's the fact that LEICA hasn't settled on their firmware yet! I talked with the senior developer of Aperture, Joe Schorr, this evening. "Leica has to get it right first before we can do anything." He stated that the way the application is scripted his development team needs the correct firmware. "If we make something now and the new firware comes out and your images look like crap, you'll blame Aperture", he also went on to say. He also stated to me that the M8 is a high priority. All in all it was a great meeting where the senior developer for LightRoom, Tom Hogarty, did kind of a dueling software with Mr. Schorr. Each had only 30 minutes to present and then catch Q&A. Then two working photographers, each using the separate applications, went over their workflow and why they preferred one app over the other. Ironically, I won the Apple Pro Training Series book, "Aperture 1.5" in a raffle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nryn Posted March 14, 2007 Share #11 Posted March 14, 2007 Even more ironically, I won a copy of Aperture 1.5. Sorry I missed you William; I forgot to write etherfarm on my nametag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted March 14, 2007 Share #12 Posted March 14, 2007 Of course they could always claim that leica never got it right. What about the DMR? does Apple know it's discontinued so there can''t be any change? sorry but again I have to say this is all BS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstotler Posted March 14, 2007 Share #13 Posted March 14, 2007 I talked with the senior developer of Aperture . . . He also stated to me that the M8 is a high priority. This is confirmation that they at least *know* it's an issue--more than I knew yesterday. Thanks for speaking to him and then sharing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavio Posted March 14, 2007 Share #14 Posted March 14, 2007 Apple seems getting closer. In the 10.4.9 update: Aperture: Benefits included with the Mac OS X 10.4.9 Update you can read this one: DNG compatibility on Intel-based Macs; - end of quote - Waiting for the (maybe) last step from Leica and then Apple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted March 14, 2007 Share #15 Posted March 14, 2007 Even more ironically, I won a copy of Aperture 1.5. Wow! The only M8 owners in the audience win the 2 copies of the Aperture book. A good sign?: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff Posted March 14, 2007 Share #16 Posted March 14, 2007 I ran across some links today which might help people better understand the issues involved and what they’re actually talking about: CNet News: Adobe taps the power of negative thinking Please note the “Not so fast” section. Barry Pearson: Camera details embedded in DNG Barry Pearson: Linear DNG This is not a Apple and Adobe are fighting thing, or Adobe is holding back, or Apple hates us, or Apple is lame, or everyone else can do it why can’t Apple? What’s that saying? “Knowledge is power, but a little bit is dangerous.” Seems what William said, and Joe Schorr comments, are pretty much correct. A number of things have to settle before Mac OS X can directly support M8 DNGs but it will happen just as fast as it can be done. There are a lot of people who feel Leica released the M8 before it was ready and quality, reliability and trust suffered. I think neither Apple and Leica would like to have an analogous scenario repeated with Mac OS X M8 support. If it is to be done, make sure it’s done correctly even if it means waiting a little longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted March 14, 2007 Share #17 Posted March 14, 2007 Geoff ... read this from the CNET article you've referred to ... that's the real thing. Another issue: Apple would like DNG better if it were a neutral standard, not one controlled by Adobe, said Rob Schoeben, Apple's vice president of applications product marketing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted March 14, 2007 Share #18 Posted March 14, 2007 Allow me to quote more ... "What would be ideal is if DNG could be turned over to a standards body, opened up and published, so everybody would know it can evolve in same way JPEG evolves," Schoeben said. And standards outlast companies, he added: "Today, you either bet on a camera company or a software company. I think people want to bet on a standard." Adobe's ownership is an issue for camera maker Olympus, too. "At this time, we have seen no strategy for it to become a de facto standard across multiple platforms or software beyond Adobe," said John Knaur, senior product manager for digital SLRs at Olympus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff Posted March 14, 2007 Share #19 Posted March 14, 2007 Geoff ... read this from the CNET article you've referred to ... that's the real thing. Yep, Apple is really big on the move to support open standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted March 14, 2007 Share #20 Posted March 14, 2007 What's your point? Exactly the same as Andy has posted ... Leica backed the wrong horse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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