Frans Kemper Posted August 15, 2012 Share #1 Â Posted August 15, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Since a week I am shooting with my new Leica X2 and made around 1000 shots. I was always a RAW/DNG shooter and continued the same. However I found that with the X2, the DNG's are not sharp, but the JPG's are really tack sharp. On the contrary the DNG's give me much better color rendering, lighting and are much deeper than the JPG's I do not understand why there are such big difference between the DNGs and JPGs Anybody any thoughts/experiences? Or am I missing something? Thank you, Frans Kemper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Hi Frans Kemper, Take a look here X2 and DNG versus JPG quality differences. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
andystac Posted August 15, 2012 Share #2 Â Posted August 15, 2012 the jpg's have been processed the DNG's have not . You have to do that yourself in lightroom or your software of choice, think of them as negatives out of the camera and have to be processed in the darkroom. Jpgs, on the oither hand are like getting your photos in an envelope from the drugstore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECliffordSmith Posted August 17, 2012 Share #3 Â Posted August 17, 2012 Hi Frans, Â As Andy has stated, the DNG file is the full data that was captured that you have to process to get the results you desire. You can influence the JPEG engine via the in camera contrast, sharpness and saturation parameters but the DNG file gives you the full control of the parameters. The default DNG responds very well to an increase in sharpness levels and provides a lot of latitude in the highlights and shadows in scenes that span many EVs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luxintense Posted October 17, 2012 Share #4 Â Posted October 17, 2012 made the same experience. but compared to raw files from olympus you have to sharpen the dng files a lot more in for example camera raw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalbernd Posted October 17, 2012 Share #5 Â Posted October 17, 2012 That's rite, but the Jpeg's in black/withe with High contrast are really fine. I have some over exposed pictures, with the dng files I can tweak them really nice, so the dynamic range is very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniard69 Posted October 18, 2012 Share #6 Â Posted October 18, 2012 Most of the time I take my pic in black & white with high contrast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFlood Posted February 14, 2013 Share #7 Â Posted February 14, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I remember reading this thread a while ago. I process raw... didn't think that much about it. Just for fun, yesterday I downloaded the Jpegs from my X2 that I take as backups and compared to some of my adjusted raw. Saw exactly the same difference the creator of this tread noticed. A big difference in sharpness and color between the two. I always assumed that the Raw pulls through the raw data with the processor adjustments... but clearly not. So, is there posted somewhere the LR4 presets that correspond to the Leica adjustment for JPG? I personally would like to start with how the JPG is adjusted with the raw and then adjust from there. Cuz, honestly I don't know what they did to get the photo that sharp, but would like to start there and increase the color. Â If anyone knows. Is this different than other cameras? I have a Nikon D800 and Fuji XE-1 and if I need to deal with this with all cameras, I guess I better know earlier versus later. JD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeputt Posted February 15, 2013 Share #8 Â Posted February 15, 2013 That's a good question JD. I would also like to know the presets, if there are any. I shoot my X2 JPG+RAW and 99% of the time I go with the JPG. Especially if I'm after a B&W image. I go back and forth between Aperture 3 and Lightroom, but I can't quite get them to look as good as the JPGs the X2 cranks out. In all fairness, I'm far from skilled at post processing. I endeavor to do as little of it as possible to be honest. With practice - who knows. I sure feel, however, that whatever this little camera does to make a JPG is impressive. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFlood Posted February 15, 2013 Share #9 Â Posted February 15, 2013 Jeff, Glad I am not alone on this, I was afraid I had nodded off during digital photo 101 somewhere. I shoot under very low light conditions, high contrast and with zillions of colors of green (I photograph out doors in the Pacific Northwest), so I run all though my workflow. I don't mind, but adjusting a JPG when you have the raw makes no sense, so I am looking forward to figuring out the trick. Since Leica distributes Lightroom with there cameras, I would think there is some synergy here. JD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFlood Posted February 20, 2013 Share #10 Â Posted February 20, 2013 I decided to start doing some research. Found we are not alone, this person has exactly the same idea I was getting at. Not that easy. Â http://www.flickr.com/groups/leicax1/discuss/72157630876233230/ Â JD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manashu Posted February 20, 2013 Share #11  Posted February 20, 2013 I decided to start doing some research. Found we are not alone, this person has exactly the same idea I was getting at. Not that easy. Flickr: Discussing Lightroom Preset: X1 JPEG "Leica Look" from RAW in Leica X1  JD And following this link you turn into Like-alook a small company that might have unveiled the secrets of "the Leica look". Presets for LR - you might buy the whole pro package or you can try with the free 4 B&W presets. Is this part of an answer to topic of the tread ? Does anyone have experience they want to share?  The links: 4 Free Black and White Presets for Lightroom 4 - Like-a-LookLike-a-Look Like-a-Look | Achieve the Leica LookLike-a-Look | Achieve the Look Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFlood Posted March 1, 2013 Share #12 Â Posted March 1, 2013 I bought all the LeicaLook per-sets... $20. They are very interesting. I'm going to have to spend some time comparing on one screen the raw with applied LeicaLook preset and on the right screen the jpg produced by my camera to see which one matches my X 2 and see what that that tells me. JD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
symmetron Posted March 3, 2013 Share #13 Â Posted March 3, 2013 Based on this thread, I just downloaded the Leica Look Alike presets for $20. I only played around with it for about 10 minutes, and I'm pretty impressed. Especially since my LR skills are so limited. Definitely worth the money IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniard69 Posted March 4, 2013 Share #14 Â Posted March 4, 2013 I prefer to take my pic in B & W with high contrast too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFlood Posted March 5, 2013 Share #15 Â Posted March 5, 2013 I thought we'll worth it as we'll. tell's me I still have a lot to learn in LR4. JD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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