rick123 Posted July 9, 2012 Share #1 Posted July 9, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi everyone, As the owner of a film M6 & digital D-Lux 2 that both serve me well, I am thinking of adding 1 of the 2 stated camera bodies to use with my 1 M lens. Which would you recommend? Thanks in advance! Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 9, 2012 Posted July 9, 2012 Hi rick123, Take a look here Sony NEX-7 or Fuji X-Pro 1 for Leica Summilux 50mm f/1.4?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted July 9, 2012 Share #2 Posted July 9, 2012 M9. Both are cropped sensor cameras and will not show the full potential of your lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianM Posted July 10, 2012 Share #3 Posted July 10, 2012 I think it boils down to this: the Fuji is more Leica-like in handling as far as almost menu free operation and direct access to important functions, however I think the NEX is far, far superior in ease of focus due to the peaking feature. Keep in mind, I have briefly used both cameras but own neither. For the moment I still highly prefer my M8, despite it's lack of high ISO prowess. That said, is an M8 not an option for you? It's not hugely more expensive and it is bound to get slightly cheaper after the M10 is announced in a couple of months. Actually, they're all almost the same price after you factor in a high quality nex/xpro M adapter. Depending on just how expensive the M10 is, the M9 migh suffer a significant drop in price too. The other advantage of the M8 is that it lets you use more of the lens than either APS-C cams, and it handles just like you're used to with the M6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted July 10, 2012 Share #4 Posted July 10, 2012 I think the NEX is far, far superior in ease of focus due to the peaking feature. What is the the "peaking feature"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_n Posted July 10, 2012 Share #5 Posted July 10, 2012 As the owner of a film M6 & digital D-Lux 2 that both serve me well, I am thinking of adding 1 of the 2 stated camera bodies to use with my 1 M lens. Which would you recommend?Rick I use an MP3 and M2 95% of the time and I needed an inexpensive digital body for family snaps and suchlike and tried both these cameras. I walked away with the NEX-7 as it just seemed so much easier to focus with Leica glass than the Fuji (and I'm a big Fuji fan - have used an S5 for several years). I've only had the camera a few days but have mostly used the Summilux 50 ASPH on it and they work fine together. I strongly urge you to try before you buy however, we're all different. What is the the "peaking feature"?The elements you want to focus on in a scene must have contrast and in-focus shows up as a color of your choice. The NEX-7 has three peaking levels and if you set it on low and run the camera in monochrome display it can be very quick and effective. TV cameras have been using focus peaking for years and I guess Sony just ported the technology from their video line. It's different from an M but just as effective in terms of results. I have very good eyesight and I could easily focus a Summilux 50 ASPH at f1.4 on a NEX-7 and get it spot on straightaway. Here are examples of what it can look like. The focus peaking on the NEX-7 is a lot more selective than the examples in that link, but hopefully you get the idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick123 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share #6 Posted July 10, 2012 jaapv: LOL, there was no door # 3! FlorianM: M8 is indeed a wonderful camera. peter_n: Thank you for your very helpful post! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted July 11, 2012 Share #7 Posted July 11, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Rick, I can't speak to the Fuji, have not used it. But I have and use the NEX-5N and NEX-7 along with an M9, Nikon D3 and D800E. The NEX-7 has a better user interface than the NEX-5N but shows more of a red color cast with some Leica wide angle lenses 21/2.8, 28/2, 28/2.8. However the WATE 16-18-21/4 is fine on both NEXs. Also, the NEX-7 seems to work fine on Leica standard and tele lenses. Focus peaking and magnification mostly work, but of course the rangefinder on a Leica gives a clearer instantaneous picture. However, having LiveView has its own advantages, as it shows the image as focused by and on the sensor with contrast detection. That's what gets written to the memory card after all. On the D3 and D800E LiveView comes in handy when evaluating the accuracy of the phase detection focusing through the optical viewfinders. Of course the NEXs have an APS-C size sensor with a crop factor of 1.5x, whereas the M9, D3, and D800E are full frame. Interestingly, on a pixel density comparison the NEX-5N sensor with around 16MP is comparable to the D800E's 36.3MP. The NEX-7 has around 24MP. The D800E would need around 57MP in order to match the pixel density of the NEX-7. So, the NEX-7 has its advantages for tele work in which one tries to get as many pixels as possible into a small angle of view area. I also use the NEXs to check on the accurate adjustment of my Visoflexes. As President Reagan once said, trust but verify, also seems to apply to non-LiveView focusing mechanisms. Good luck with your eventual choice of camera. I am interested to learn what you decide after you spent some time evaluating both. I find it takes some effort to familiarize oneself with new gadgets in order to form an opinion based on facts and not fiction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted July 11, 2012 Share #8 Posted July 11, 2012 I have the NEX7 and the XPro-1. The NEX7 complements the M9 nicely, especially for lenses 50mm and longer. Thanks to excellent VF, focus peaking, no noticable shutter lag (the fastest shutter release I ever experienced on any camera) it's great for action shooting with the longer M-lenses. As far as using wider lenses on the NEX is concerned, you already got good advise, it's not the perfect tool. For headache free usage of any m-lens, the Ricoh GXR M-mount is the way to go (no color or corner/edge smearing issues, not even with the CV ultra wides). The Fuji I have not tried with m-lenses, I simply don't bond with this camera, it will be sold soon. But inferior VF (compared to my M9), no focus peaking, terrible shutter lag tell me it won't be too much fun with m-lenses compared with a M-body, GXR m-mount or NEX7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick123 Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share #9 Posted July 11, 2012 k-hawinkler: It is beginning to sound like the NEX-7 is the way to go with my 50mm! Thank you for sharing your experience. Ecaton: Thank you for your helpful advice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted July 11, 2012 Share #10 Posted July 11, 2012 I can share my experience with the Fuji X-Pro1 + Summilux 50. I'm sure the Sony feature may be better to focus, since you can see the full scene and still focus properly. But on the Fuji the EVF is so bright and effective that I didn't miss anything at all. For the most difficult situations, there's the 1:1 magnification, and that is veri helpful and quick to use. YMMV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick123 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share #11 Posted July 12, 2012 Maurizio: Thanks for sharing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiphoto Posted July 12, 2012 Share #12 Posted July 12, 2012 I am going to buy a camera . Please some one tell me which camera is best for buy at cheap rate ? and what about the lance ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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