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Sigma DP1, Poor man's Leica?


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I can't wait to get my hands on this camera. Although I consider my M8 to be the compact answer to my DSLR, sometimes a true pocketable point in shoot is the better solution. The problem, with other models is their tiny sensors are just too noisy for low light situations. If Sigma can get at least 800 ISO out of the camera with low noise (and RAW files!), even F4 will be fine. I've been using my 28mm F4 Skopar at 640 ISO on my M8 with good results and thats with zone focusing. The Sigma should perform well.

 

I hope this camera is a winner. It would really be cool if the would come out with a interchangeable lens camera with a range of collapsable lenses. That would put serious pressure on Leica for the serious travel and street photographer. I personally would have both:cool:

 

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It would really be cool if the would come out with a interchangeable lens camera with a range of collapsable lenses. That would put serious pressure on Leica for the serious travel and street photographer
..... ain't going to happen , the market it too small., DSLRs are putting pressure on as it is. A DSLR like a pentaxK100 with a 21mm(32mm) pancake shoots excellent at 800iso and great at 1600iso, add a 40mm (60mm) fits in a coat pocket. It may not be as good as a leica lens wise but does a damn great job at a very low price. Oly, Nikon etc would as well but for the lack of primes
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Because film and digital are two very different beasts. With a large sensor you need a large lens so the light hits it dead on. This is different from film. Leica wanted to go full frame on the M8 but couldn't manage it with the existing lenses. Rather than design a whole new lens type for it they instead used a 1.33x crop sensor with micromirrors to redirect the light. This is very expensive to do currently. So there is a way around it if you're willing to throw enough money at the problem but I doubt many would be comfortable spending $2000 or more on a full frame DP1. At $700 it's going to be at the top of the compact camera food chain both in terms of performance and price.

MMmhh, I see but I am not sure if there might be quit some people who would spend 2000$ for a Minilux-digital with a 35mm FOV and f2.0)

Vignetting correction should be easier too with a prime-lens camera. They would have to optimize micrlenses and software vignetting correction only for one lens.

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I wonder if its raw processing is faster than the GRD. If so, sign me up! (which of course, I can't believe I said since the M8 has sarcely rolled off the credit card statement).

 

No way the GRD will be better than this, especially since the chip is so small and the lens so stupidly wide as a consequence to get the 28mm effect. Not to mention noise from a small chip.

 

This looks like just the ticket.

 

Well done Sigma.

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The LCD is 4:3 aspect ratio. They should have went 3:2 to match the sensor. Though if they set up the cropped area on the 4:3 screen intelegently to show vitale camera statistics without obstructing the frame of view the 4:3 screen could be a bonus.

 

It would appear this is the case!

 

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indeed Leica M is probably the only one we will see

this because it uses M lenses which are still in production are of highest quality

and have been around for decades, so there are lots of them

 

as to interchangeable lenses

that's what everyone said about the D2/LC-1

when they finally released what was asked people suddenly got shy

a lesson not missed on manufacturers I assure you

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as to interchangeable lenses

that's what everyone said about the D2/LC-1

when they finally released what was asked people suddenly got shy

a lesson not missed on manufacturers I assure you

 

It seems to me most people here asked for the same camera body but with a better quality sensor and faster write times. What we got was an SLR instead. Not at all the same.

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indeed Leica M is probably the only one we will see

this because it uses M lenses which are still in production are of highest quality

and have been around for decades, so there are lots of them

 

as to interchangeable lenses

that's what everyone said about the D2/LC-1

when they finally released what was asked people suddenly got shy

a lesson not missed on manufacturers I assure you

 

I would love the idea of a small digital compact body with interchangeable lenses but the LC-1 is by no means small, and the lenses are HUGE!

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It seems to me most people here asked for the same camera body but with a better quality sensor and faster write times. What we got was an SLR instead. Not at all the same.

 

i believe i heard bigger sensor

lower noise

larger RAW buffer

interchangeable lenses

and the OVF was preffered over EVF, which can only be done on a dSLR because of the use of zooms

 

basically everything else is the same in looks and similar layout

sans that huge kit lens

 

http://www.leica-camera-user.com/digital-forum/18422-what-your-all-time-favorite-camera-3.html#post195324

 

>redawn

yes probably because its F:2

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MMmhh, I see but I am not sure if there might be quit some people who would spend 2000$ for a Minilux-digital with a 35mm FOV and f2.0)

I would buy this in a heartbeat if the controls and viewfinder were really first rate. I am more interested in small, fast, controllable, and quiet than in medium-format image quality. And 35mm is my ideal focal length.

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Although I'm pleased with my present C-Lux 1, Panasonic LC1, and L1 setup for my handheld photography needs (I'm a view camera/tripod guy at heart!), I'll happily make room for one of these if it performs well and is priced under four figures...

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