jpattison Posted June 15, 2012 Share #1 Â Posted June 15, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, I was wondering about the new Retina screen. It would be a great advance on the regular glossy screen, but that has a Hi-Res Anti-Glare option that I always thought was the one I would buy. Now the new MBP with Retina display doesn't have an Anti-Glare option. Â Has anyone been satisfied with the regular glossy screen, or have you found the Anti-Glare option to be essential for serious photo work? Â Thanks, John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CalArts 99 Posted June 16, 2012 Share #2 Â Posted June 16, 2012 I use the 17" with matte screen option (and no longer available from Apple as of this week.) I personally cannot use a glossy screen, there's just too much reflection. I also use an external Eizo monitor with the laptop for processing photo files for printing and pre-press work. Laptops are somewhat difficult to color correct esp due to variable viewing angles. Â I don't think the retina display will be much help in preparing files for printing. It will look good to you, but gets 'lost' in the print translation. It will look good for web use/monitor viewing of photos but that's assuming you're the only viewer (other viewers w/o a retina display won't see what you see.) Plus not all apps can effectively use the retina display right now. Older versions of Photoshop will be an issue as the text and user buttons will be too small because of the pixel density crammed into a 15" screen. Adobe has announced an upgrade to CS6 eventually that will support the retina display Adobe Forums: MacBook Pro Retina Display Support ? Â I think your best option for "serious work" is to use an external monitor (like a ColorEdge Eizo) with the laptop. Second best is the matte screen option on a Mac Book Pro. Â imho, the retina display will offer nice eye candy, but I don't see how it would make a lot of difference in one's real world photographic production. Â (Unfortunately, Apple isn't catering to design professionals so much anymore like they used to do. It's more about computing for the masses which is okay and it has made them very successful. Their early cinema displays were great. But these days nobody uses Apple displays and have shifted over to Eizo.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted June 16, 2012 Share #3 Â Posted June 16, 2012 Personally I didn't stop me ordering. ONly time I have a need for a laptop is when I'm shooting on location and I'm usually using a light tent anyway but we'll see how it goes. I would never consider using one as my only monitor. I can't speak for the new monitors but I would never rely a laptop monitor for critical work. So it's used in conjunction with another monitor anyway. Â I do think it will greatly help photography though. When you view high res files like medium format or even with an M9 and certain lenses, they can look soft until you zoom in because it doesn't have the capability of showing the sharp detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted June 16, 2012 Author Share #4 Â Posted June 16, 2012 Thanks, guys. I do use a Mac Pro (desktop) with an Apple 20" aluminium framed monitor. The MBP will be for location and course work, so I am tempted to go for the older screen. especially as my critical work will be on the Mac Pro, and the difference with the Retina would be too obvious. Â I'll wait until I can compare them in store. Â Cheers, John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted June 16, 2012 Share #5  Posted June 16, 2012 ...I think your best option for "serious work" is to use an external monitor (like a ColorEdge Eizo) with the laptop. Second best is the matte screen option on a Mac Book Pro. imho, the retina display will offer nice eye candy, but I don't see how it would make a lot of difference in one's real world photographic production...Their early cinema displays were great. But these days nobody uses Apple displays and have shifted over to Eizo.) The problem I see is that the Apple Cinema Display has Thunderbolt connectivity, but the Eizo, I assume, doesn't. That makes it a problem in using the MacBook Pro, or a MacBook Air as one's only computer. I travel frequently and extensively and don't want to synchronize and update constantly two computers. Is there a solution to this? —Mitch/Chiang Mai Scratching the Surface Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted June 16, 2012 Share #6 Â Posted June 16, 2012 Mitch, You can either buy a DVI to Mini Display lead or a DVI to mini display adapter for your existing cable. I've both and they work fine. Â Thunderbolt uses an adapted mini display port. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted June 16, 2012 Share #7 Â Posted June 16, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Apple Mini DisplayPort to DVI - for 20 and 23" Cinema Display (Thunderbolt compatible) - Jigsaw24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted June 16, 2012 Share #8  Posted June 16, 2012 Paul, I don't have an Eizo. I have an old LaCie CRT monitor that is on its last legs, and I'll soon have to replace it. The reason that I raised the Thunderbolt issue is that I have two external hard disks set up with RAID and connected by FireWire to a 17-inch (matte screen) MacBook. These days I'm using almost exclusively my 13-inch MacBook Air (pre-Thunderbolt).  If I get the newest MacBook Air (fully loded with RAM and storage) or the MacBook Pro with retina display, I assumed that I would need an Apple Cinema Display with Thunderbolt to connect to the FireWire RAID disks. Or is there another solution for either of these two new computers and an Eizo monitor?  —Mitch/Chiang Mai Scratching the Surface Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted June 16, 2012 Share #9 Â Posted June 16, 2012 Hopefully I've understood but yes, there are pretty much adapters for anything into thunderbolt. Ethernet, Firewire, esata, DVI. Â You will be able to connect existing Firewire drives to thunderbolt port of new computers with an adapter and you will be able to connect monitors that aren't thunderbolt via an adapter. I would imagine someone makes an adapter for your existing Lacie CRT for use in the meantime also. You most definitely can get adapters for any DVI connected monitor such as Eizo, NEC, Dell etc etc etc. Or you can just buy a lead which has the mini display port (same fitting as thunderbolt) on one end. Â I'm using DVI to Mini Displayport leads for my monitors without any problems. Â Here is the Apple made firewire to thunderbolt adapter - http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57450832-263/apple-thunderbolt-adapters-arriving-in-apple-stores/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted June 17, 2012 Share #10 Â Posted June 17, 2012 Mitch- Â Maybe you already know what monitor you will buy. But if not and depending on resources take a look at the matte HP ZR30w. They also make similar monitors smaller than the 30". It is marketed by the pro division of HP, not the consumer division and comes with a 3 year warranty, upgradable to 5 years and included all the cables needed for connection to my mid 2010 Mac pro. Adapters will allow it to connect to Thunderbolt Macs. It is a super IPS monitor for a respectable price. I got mine for around $1250 on an introduction price from MacMall and now they run around $1500, I believe. The matte screen is why I bought it and I never have glare problems nowadays. I do not work for HP nor sell anything, except for the BS to my wife so I can acquire more photo gear to solve my G.A.S. syndrome. Hope she doesn't read this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamr Posted June 17, 2012 Share #11  Posted June 17, 2012 Not only is the display retina but has IPS (In Plane Switching) technolgy. I use an iMac 27 with IPS technology which has a very wide angle of view and allows very accurate colour correction. The IPS aspect of the display would be of more interest to me than retina. I like the glossy screens personally and in most cases can avoid severe reflections.  Regards  Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share #12 Â Posted July 3, 2012 Came across this article... http://fiftyfootshadows.net/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalArts 99 Posted July 3, 2012 Share #13 Â Posted July 3, 2012 Came across this article...http://fiftyfootshadows.net/ Â This is a phenomenon I've been interested in for a while. The photographic image itself is now so associated with a device and methodology used for viewing that it has lost its uniqueness as an object. We view images on devices needing electrical power as the physical print slowly disappears in society. And the device we use for viewing photographic images now becomes an integral part of the image itself and how that image becomes interpreted and defined. Â In addition, the viewing of images has become more of a private experience in the confines of one's personal space rather than say, viewing an exhibition of prints in a public institutional space or within an educational context. Any 'sharing' of images requires computers and internet connections with a distanced dialogue that is dependent on those devices. The dialogue itself becomes fragmented and interrupted by time and space as one waits until a response is posted on the internet. Â And the uniqueness of a single physical print appears to no longer be of issue. Many years ago, I worked down the street from the University of Arizona's Center for Creative Photography and would spend one day a week having the curator pull out original prints for me to view first hand (it was a public service under their education program.) I felt looking at prints first hand and looking at an actual physical object that the artist either produced themselves, or at the very least had held in their hands allowed an intimacy that was missing by looking at prints online or reproduced in books. Â I personally position the computer and monitor simply as tools for producing the end product, which in my case is still the print. As the print quietly disappears (like film), we are losing the image as something tangible and instead have relegated it to a series of zeros and ones that require a device in order to make any sense of it. Â The image is no longer a distinctive object. Its repeatability is emphasized as it finds itself cloned numerous times over and viewed through numerous types of devices. It's as if Walter Benjamin's "The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction" has now entered the era of Ridley Scott's "Blade Runner." Â Benjamin: The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Scott: Blade Runner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Fosch Posted July 3, 2012 Share #14  Posted July 3, 2012 Not only is the display retina but has IPS (In Plane Switching) technolgy. I use an iMac 27 with IPS technology which has a very wide angle of view and allows very accurate colour correction. The IPS aspect of the display would be of more interest to me than retina. I like the glossy screens personally and in most cases can avoid severe reflections. Regards  Mark Hi: For Color accuracy and predictability with a laptop I recommend an hp workstation with a dreamcolor display. I have an 8540w with a dreamcolor display.  These laptops have a high Performance panel with in-Plane Switching (IPS) and 30-bit color accuracy. The Engine supports multiple color space emulation presets, including native/full gamut (no internal color management applied), sRGB, Adobe RGB, SMPTE-C, Rec709, DCI-P3 emulation, plus one user-defined color space. In addition, these panels support user-definable white point adjustment. see Whitepaper: http://www.jeremyschultz.com/DreamColor_Whitepaper_2010.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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