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Why doesn't the Photo Forum have a Street Photo category?


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there are all kinds of sub-forums in the Photo forum, but there is not one for street photography. It seems to me that the People forum gets a lot of them but the intro says it is about portraiture. and there are a lot of people in the group that really do mostly portraiture.

 

would it make sense to add a sub forum for street photography? especially since a ton of leica users do street?

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I don't agree, because I think the subject of street photography, one way or another, is most often people, a category that already exists. When people are not the main subject (rarely the case even when they're not in the shot) , when its architecture, or the light on the pavement, or the shadow of the bird on the shop window, its no more "street" than the equivalent photo taken in the hills or in a plane or on your bed...

 

I don't care too much, but I don't like the feeling that we're making "street" a label for a kind of photography that will in turn influence the kind of photos we take. And look for. And ignore, according to our pre-determined tastes.

 

 

But I'm probably over-sensitive about this!

 

Maybe we should just amend the intros to the other sections.

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I don't agree, because I think the subject of street photography, one way or another, is most often people, a category that already exists. When people are not the main subject (rarely the case even when they're not in the shot) , when its architecture, or the light on the pavement, or the shadow of the bird on the shop window, its no more "street" than the equivalent photo taken in the hills or in a plane or on your bed...

 

I don't care too much, but I don't like the feeling that we're making "street" a label for a kind of photography that will in turn influence the kind of photos we take. And look for. And ignore, according to our pre-determined tastes.

 

 

But I'm probably over-sensitive about this!

 

Maybe we should just amend the intros to the other sections.

 

I agree to a point Peter but when the subject IS 'light on the pavement', 'bird reflection in a window' or dare I say it, 'toy monkey dressed as Lennon in a window', where do you post it?

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I think this is a valid point raised by the OP and others agree ??

 

Where do I put a picture like this (apart from the bin;) )? People ? Nature & Wildlife ? Architecture ? Other :(?

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If 'People' is meant for street photography, then what about the street photography thats main subject isn't people, yet shot on and a part of, the street?

 

And if 'People' IS for street photography, why not call the category 'Street Photography'?

 

We want Street, we want Street, we . . .

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Blimey. You lot want to make it hard, don't you? If it were me I would file that in "other" as I would most other shots of a shop window. I do have a problem with such shots, btw - someone else has created the display and if you are just taking a straight record shot of it (as opposed to people reacting to it, or reflections creating "something more". Maybe it's just me, but I don't regard street photography as snapping someone else's creative efforts as you stroll by.

 

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Bill

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. . . I don't regard street photography as snapping someone else's creative efforts as you stroll by.

 

It takes two people to 'create' a person. :)

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I wonder what Atget would have to say about it? Paris Streets, shop window displays?

 

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Took approximately 30,000 images of the streets of Paris and it's shops before it was demolished? This was years before it was technically possible to shoot pictures of people because of emulsion speed.

 

Not a street photographer??

 

If by not having a street photography category, is the Forum in fact saying that THE oldest form of photography (static objects) doesn't exist anymore.

 

'Other' is a derisory label.

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Took approximately 30,000 images of the streets of Paris and it's shops before it was demolished? Not a street photographer??

 

No.

 

Not in the sense that I think most of us understand it.

 

If I were looking for a meticulously detailed record of the streets and buildings of one specific city, I wouldn't think to look in the "street photography" section as much as travel perhaps, or architecture.

 

 

But if I want photos of people going about their lives, natural and un-posed, in the context of their normal surroundings, street, even if the street happens to be a back-yard or a sea-front, is where I'd expect to find it.

 

And perhaps stuffed monkeys deserve a category of their own!

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. . . STREET, even if the street happens to be a back-yard or a sea-front, is where I'd expect to find it.

 

Then why is it called 'People' ?

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The next time I'm asked in 'the street', or youtube etc "what sort of photography do you shoot", I shall matter of factly say "Other". :cool:

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The next time I'm asked in 'the street', or youtube etc "what sort of photography do you shoot", I shall matter of factly say "Other". :cool:

 

:D

 

So why would you look for 'Street'?

 

Because Street Photography is a sub-set of People Photography. We are allowed a little intelligence aren't we?

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:D

 

 

 

Because Street Photography is a sub-set of People Photography. We are allowed a little intelligence aren't we?

 

Ah, now we're getting somewhere.

 

So as 'People' is a sub-set of 'Street Photography', that would suggest Street Photography contains other categories? And if so, why are they not mentioned in a main category of 'Street Photography'?

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I would still like to see a Street category and a Reportage category too. But neither as much as I would like to see a Stuffed Monkey category.

 

How about a compromise? Let's rename the Other category to Stuffed Monkeys.

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Look again. You've got that the wrong way round.

 

People includes street.

 

Sorry, I noticed that afterwards, but went for a bath. Yes, street is a sub-set of people. So where's the street category?

 

Please don't think I'm deliberately stirring the proverbial or trying to cause an argument.

 

I'm just attempting to get to the bottom of a topic which has been discussed on many a forum all over the web, but always ends with a split down the middle. So as a result, there's half of photographers uncatered for.

 

Let me put it another way in the form of a quiz. Anyone can take part and it's free to enter.

 

The Atget picture posted above. Forgetting he's an acknowleged master of Street, which category on this forum would you place it in?

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I would still like to see a Street category and a Reportage category too. But neither as much as I would like to see a Stuffed Monkey category.

 

How about a compromise? Let's rename the Other category to Stuffed Monkeys.

 

Good idea. Stuffed Monkey's have feelings to :)

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