Scarlet Posted August 9, 2012 Share #61  Posted August 9, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have used a Crumpler Wonder Weenie for almost ten years. It doesn't look like a camera bag at all which I think is good.  The bag is water repellent and can be proofed with water repellent spray. The lid can be locked with two big plastic clips, but - and this is really good - it also has two very large Velcro patches that lock securely and enable very swift access to the camera. Excellent broad shoulder strap, too.  There are three pockets inside. A big middle one with a velcro lock, useful for filters, film, batteries etc. Then on each side of this pocket there are two vertical pockets that fit lenses perfectly. There's also a zipped pocket on the outside which is good for more accessories.  Afaik, Crumpler does not sell the Haven range of inserts in Europe which s u c k s. Otherwise I'd have bought one. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/181052-bag-collection-for-m-system/?do=findComment&comment=2083012'>More sharing options...
Messsucherkamera Posted August 9, 2012 Share #62 Â Posted August 9, 2012 In the Midwest, one has to be careful what type of bag is used to carry camera equipment. My teenagers have prohibited me from ever using a fanny pack and a guy carrying around a leather bag remotely similar to a purse or murse also raises eyebrows. I often use a Crumpler Haven insert for my D700 that can be hidden in other bags depending on the situation. The TT Retrospective 5 is currently at the top of my shopping list, but I plan to hold out to see if Think Tank introduces a Retrospective 3 (something smaller) that will still hold an M10 and 3 lenses. Â I also live in the Midwest (aka "fly-over land") but was unaware that in some people's minds, if a man carries a leather satchel or some type of bag or pack it somehow indicates to them that he is either feminized or homosexual. Â That seems to be a rather bizarre outlook, given that one of the most man among men types of all - the American cowboy - wore, used and carried leather gear quite alot: Leather saddles, saddle bags, reins for his horse, cowboy boots, chaps, vests, belts, holsters, rifle scabbards, gloves, etc. I have never heard anyone mock John Wayne as being feminine for wearing leather (or for any other reason). Â As Indiana Jones - another rugged, manly adventurer movie character, Harrison Ford wore a leather jacket and carried a leather whip and (IIRC) carried a leather satchel when going about his professorial duties on campus. I have never heard "Indy" ridiculed as a girly-man, either. Â Regarding camera bags, I carry what I have and don't concern myself with what "image" ( ) others may project upon my bag or how they may stereotype me because of it. I have more important issues to think about such as capturing decisive moments. Â I will agree with your teenagers, though - avoid fanny packs like the plague. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted August 9, 2012 Share #63 Â Posted August 9, 2012 I like what that water repellant did to the color. Nice rich brown. Hey, would an A&A red insert fit inside that bag? Not near my inserts right now so cannot give you the exact dimensions, but about 12"L x 7"H x 4"W. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messsucherkamera Posted August 9, 2012 Share #64 Â Posted August 9, 2012 Rather comprehensive list so far. So does that mean we can now merge all the other bag threads into one mega thread? Â Perish the thought! You'd never be able to find the link to your favorite bag! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberline12k Posted August 9, 2012 Share #65  Posted August 9, 2012 I like what that water repellant did to the color. Nice rich brown. Hey, would an A&A red insert fit inside that bag? Not near my inserts right now so cannot give you the exact dimensions, but about 12"L x 7"H x 4"W.  The measurements on Saddleback's web-site are fairly accurate. Just take off 1/4" for inside dimensions. The Saddleback Gadget Bag is almost boxy, which makes it very stable. I have often had my Retrospective 10 roll over because it was top heavy. Most recently it cost me a filter, but at least the DSLR and lens were unharmed. I use a large Haven inside the Retrospective 10.  The combo of the medium Haven and Gadget Bag are great. Both provide a different type of protection, and the medium Haven allows you to remove it to access items in the pockets or what is stored outside the Haven. I plan to pick up an RX100 to slip in front of the Haven for those times I need autofocus, zoom or flash. I have been testing this set-up with my D800E and 120/4, but switch to the Retrospective 10 when I need to include a flash, etc.  I also live in the Midwest (aka "fly-over land") but was unaware that in some people's minds, if a man carries a leather satchel or some type of bag or pack it somehow indicates to them that he is either feminized or homosexual. That seems to be a rather bizarre outlook, given that one of the most man among men types of all - the American cowboy - wore, used and carried leather gear quite alot: Leather saddles, saddle bags, reins for his horse, cowboy boots, chaps, vests, belts, holsters, rifle scabbards, gloves, etc. I have never heard anyone mock John Wayne as being feminine for wearing leather (or for any other reason).  As Indiana Jones - another rugged, manly adventurer movie character, Harrison Ford wore a leather jacket and carried a leather whip and (IIRC) carried a leather satchel when going about his professorial duties on campus. I have never heard "Indy" ridiculed as a girly-man, either.  Regarding camera bags, I carry what I have and don't concern myself with what "image" ( ) others may project upon my bag or how they may stereotype me because of it. I have more important issues to think about such as capturing decisive moments.  I will agree with your teenagers, though - avoid fanny packs like the plague.  As you can see in my earlier post photos, I ended up with a leather bag. The color and texture I selected will lend itself to scuffs and marks. It should age well and is very similar to my dad's leica camera bag from the 60's.  I carry a leather satchel to work every day, but I am the only guy in the office who carries any type of bag. I think my comments had to do more with similarities to purses, ones that are shiny and bright. Guys carrying bags are not frequently seen in the midwest or at least as much as in Europe, unless the bags are scruffy. Fogg bags which run $400 are much more refined, but they do scream "steal me - expensive equipment inside". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted August 10, 2012 Share #66  Posted August 10, 2012 David  What size did you buy? They list 3 sizes-s,m,l. Thanks. How long to get it? Did you buy it from a distributor in the US?  How do you like using your 800e with regards to focusing. Any difficulties? I read about problems with focusing and Nikon's warnings. Just wanted to her from a real owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberline12k Posted August 10, 2012 Share #67  Posted August 10, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) David What size did you buy? They list 3 sizes-s,m,l. Thanks. How long to get it? Did you buy it from a distributor in the US?  How do you like using your 800e with regards to focusing. Any difficulties? I read about problems with focusing and Nikon's warnings. Just wanted to hear from a real owner.  I purchased the medium tobacco brown gadget bag directly from Saddleback. I received it within 10 days of order. The Medium Gadget Bag works great with the Medium Haven. Sides and top are flush with the inside of the Gadget Bag, but there is room (probably 2") to add items in front and in back of the Haven, i.e. RX100 in front, 7" tablet or Nook behind.  I finally received my D800E in mid July. It does not have any of the reported side focus issues, but I read that Nikon corrected the problem on D800/D800E shipments after July 1, 2012. I may still auto focus fine tune the D800E with the 24-120/4 to gain maximum sharpness.  By the way, I used 50% #1 and 50% #3 Chamberlains because I wanted to minimally darken the leather. It has lighted up since the second photo was taken immediately after applying the leather milk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted August 10, 2012 Share #68 Â Posted August 10, 2012 I am thinking the Large Saddleback would be best for an 800e with 70-200 and maybe a 24-70 or 24-85. Also would like one that holds a Hassy SWC and 503CW body with maybe a 250 and/or 100 lens with Phase One P45+ digital back and misc crap I seem to carry around-mostly batteries and memory cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ib M Posted August 10, 2012 Share #69 Â Posted August 10, 2012 I've just ordered a "SAC plombier LOUISE" from BLEU DE CHAUFFE http://www.bleu-de-chauffe.com/site/product.php?id_product=36 Thought it looks interesting and unconventional out, and suitable for the small spontaneous trips. Maybe not the most practical bag when it comes to division of the large room. Â More information at Adam Marelli photo blog http://www.adammarelliphoto.com/2012/06/joey-pasco-sac-plombier-louise/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf Posted August 10, 2012 Share #70  Posted August 10, 2012 I've just ordered a "SAC plombier LOUISE" from BLEU DE CHAUFFE sac plombier Louise Thought it looks interesting and unconventional out, and suitable for the small spontaneous trips. Maybe not the most practical bag when it comes to division of the large room.  More information at Adam Marelli photo blog Joey Pasco’s Sac Plombier Louise | Adam Marelli Photo  This is really a very nice bag and it will look even better the older it gets. Have you tried to use some inserts to divide up the room inside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ib M Posted August 10, 2012 Share #71 Â Posted August 10, 2012 This is really a very nice bag and it will look even better the older it gets. Have you tried to use some inserts to divide up the room inside? Plans to use it with small pouch for lenses Micro Lens Pouch - But maybe be a good idea to find a single partition to divide some the room Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted August 10, 2012 Share #72  Posted August 10, 2012 sac plombier Louise  Seriously, 289€ for a bag? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ib M Posted August 10, 2012 Share #73  Posted August 10, 2012 Seriously, 289€ for a bag?  Yes, the same people say about the contents of the bag - M9 + Noct.  Once I've selected Leica, I do not bother choosing a cheap Lowepro. Think incidentally the bag can hold a lifetime, and love it already. Had actually seen on a B-Leica from Fogg, which is more expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indina Posted August 11, 2012 Share #74 Â Posted August 11, 2012 Here's a review of the small saddleback gadget bag, showing it's capacities quite well: Â Saddleback Leather Small Gadget Bag for carrying Micro 4/3 Camera Kit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgrafixstop Posted August 20, 2012 Share #75 Â Posted August 20, 2012 check out "sac de berger" in one of several sizes. Great leather, comfortable, and spacious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny Swanny Posted August 22, 2012 Share #76 Â Posted August 22, 2012 What kind of Filsom bag is it ? Â And which Hadley Insert ? there are 3 on the Billingham website ...the Small ? the Original ? or the Large ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Doug Posted September 11, 2012 Share #77  Posted September 11, 2012 Saddleback Leather Small Gadget Bag for carrying Micro 4/3 Camera Kit  Saddleback stuff RULES! My briefcase is damn-near indestructible. I was planning on getting one for my M system.  I picked this case up on a whim...based on good experiences buying things with bad pictures.  First is a pic of what he posted. Next is the pic I took when I opened the box today. This is the picture he SHOULD have taken.  Score! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/181052-bag-collection-for-m-system/?do=findComment&comment=2110056'>More sharing options...
dickgrafixstop Posted September 28, 2012 Share #78 Â Posted September 28, 2012 Your listings include mainly higher priced units, but I've had excellent luck with a Naneu Pro Lima for a camera and two additional lenses, chargers, etc. Also the Sierra model is about the same but with a padded compartment for IPad, small computer or such. Either bag is less than $100. The Think Tank retrospective 10, 15 and 20 are excellent, high quality alternatives. Several of the new Tamrac or Lowepro messenger bags are functional, stylish (banish basic black? or a competitive response to Crumpler?) and cheap enough to be almost disposable. These are just small shoulder bags and I haven't gotten into the plethora of new "sling" bags from almost every manufacturer. One of my personal favorites is a Crown Royal whiskey premium bag from the duty free in London - and it's insulated also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messsucherkamera Posted October 20, 2012 Share #79  Posted October 20, 2012 The measurements on Saddleback's web-site are fairly accurate. Just take off 1/4" for inside dimensions. The Saddleback Gadget Bag is almost boxy, which makes it very stable. I have often had my Retrospective 10 roll over because it was top heavy. Most recently it cost me a filter, but at least the DSLR and lens were unharmed. I use a large Haven inside the Retrospective 10. The combo of the medium Haven and Gadget Bag are great. Both provide a different type of protection, and the medium Haven allows you to remove it to access items in the pockets or what is stored outside the Haven. I plan to pick up an RX100 to slip in front of the Haven for those times I need autofocus, zoom or flash. I have been testing this set-up with my D800E and 120/4, but switch to the Retrospective 10 when I need to include a flash, etc.    As you can see in my earlier post photos, I ended up with a leather bag. The color and texture I selected will lend itself to scuffs and marks. It should age well and is very similar to my dad's leica camera bag from the 60's.  I carry a leather satchel to work every day, but I am the only guy in the office who carries any type of bag. I think my comments had to do more with similarities to purses, ones that are shiny and bright. Guys carrying bags are not frequently seen in the midwest or at least as much as in Europe, unless the bags are scruffy. Fogg bags which run $400 are much more refined, but they do scream "steal me - expensive equipment inside". It seems that no one thinks Billingham bags broadcast that same message - but sometimes I wonder. I still use my tan Billingham bags, though. My take on Billingham bags is that they look like a quality bag but they don't appear to be excessively expensive.  I need a backpack for carrying much more than one camera, two lenses and doodads to go with the camera - my shoulders cannot carry heavy loads in a shoulder bag or satchel for very long without causing pain. Of course, Billingham has stopped making the backpack that they used to make ().  I want a light color backpack for use during the hot & sunny months; dark colors absorb heat from sunlight (not so much of a worry during cool and cold weather months, though). It seems like most bag makers have a black nylon fetish.  Domke makes a couple of backpacks in tan canvas and they are interesting - but I did read a review on the B&H website that pointed out that the straps can rip loose from the base of the bag with relative ease. Not good.  The Saddleback Simple Backpack in tobacco color is interesting - but it has no padded camera inserts (trying to avoid the do it yourself engineering route if possible) . It looks like a high dollar pack so we are back to the issue with Fogg bags inviting the unwanted attention of thieves.  As I discovered long ago, there is no such thing as the perfect camera bag or backpack. That's why we have half a million on the market to choose from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 20, 2012 Share #80  Posted October 20, 2012 Fogg bags which run $400 are much more refined, but they do scream "steal me - expensive equipment inside"  I have one of these (pic is not my actual bag, which is over 15 years old and scruffy enough from trips to many countries, but it's the same bag pictured here by someone else). It stays in the hotel when I'm out shooting, and common sense keeps it safe while I'm using it in transit. Usually the person 'screams' more than any bag, but to me this one doesn't scream any more than a lot of fancier Billinghams.  Jeff  (Gosh, I haven't posted to bag thread in a year or two...back to rehab) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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