de dirk Posted March 6, 2007 Share #1 Posted March 6, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) on it's first trip to the motherland my M8 produces a green stripe! ISO 160 elmarit 24 f 8... it's been sweet for 5 weeks... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/18028-green-stripe-in-berlin/?do=findComment&comment=192178'>More sharing options...
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marknorton Posted March 6, 2007 Share #2 Posted March 6, 2007 Looks more like a white square to me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry Posted March 6, 2007 Share #3 Posted March 6, 2007 Looks more like a white square to me... We have a lot of those in Minnesota, I didn't realize it was also a problem in Berlin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 6, 2007 Share #4 Posted March 6, 2007 Might want to stop down just a little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
de dirk Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share #5 Posted March 6, 2007 yes i know... trying hard to get the picture in right now... [ATTACH]28506[/ATTACH] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 6, 2007 Share #6 Posted March 6, 2007 It's a white rectangle now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Hoge Posted March 6, 2007 Share #7 Posted March 6, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Way overexposed!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
de dirk Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share #8 Posted March 6, 2007 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! here is the stripe Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! here is the stripe ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/18028-green-stripe-in-berlin/?do=findComment&comment=192289'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 6, 2007 Share #9 Posted March 6, 2007 ???????? It looks like a green wineglass fell upwards at great speed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberth Posted March 6, 2007 Share #10 Posted March 6, 2007 I sent my photo with a green streak to my dealer here in Sydney, he forwarded it onto Leica in Aus who forwarded it to Leica head office. Within several hours of me sending the photo I got a call saying a new camera is coming to me as a replacement. I feel that is the best service. Regards, Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted March 7, 2007 Share #11 Posted March 7, 2007 Does this mean that Leica acknowledge that some cameras have this problem and some don't ? That is a very important piece of information. Mine occasionally does this but I had assumed (maybe incorrectly) that it was a "feature" of all M8s under certain conditions. Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted March 7, 2007 Share #12 Posted March 7, 2007 That is interesting to me too. I thought that everyone who had tried properly was able to reproduce it so far... Is anyone consistently unable to reproduce it, even with these steps: set exposure for background, frame so that a bulb is directly on the left or right edge of the sensor, set camera to 'C' and start shooting, slowly moving the bulb out of the frame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35mmSummicron Posted March 7, 2007 Share #13 Posted March 7, 2007 i can pretty much replicate this problem with my M8 fairly easily, and have done so with a number of other M8 bodies (ex: friend's M8, different dealers etc.) My M8 is a fairly late model number with the hardware fix and 1.09 out of the box. i am hoping it is firmware fixable and will be resolved with 1.10 (the new 1.092 doesn't fix it) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted March 7, 2007 Share #14 Posted March 7, 2007 I just tested my M8 against my ceiling mounted down light. I can reproduce the green stripe 10 times out of 10 if I choose. Problem is, their is no indication when you are 'really' shooting just when it will happen. I copped it on the W/E shooting a wedding. See Guy Mancuso's thread here: http://www.leica-camera-user.com/digital-forum/18233-new-firmware-1-092-thoughts-read-6.html#post192782 Permalink # 105 I will contact my dealer to see what he thinks. Otherwise, I am wrapped in this camera. About to update the firmware if no other 'down' sides to it are reported. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted March 7, 2007 Share #15 Posted March 7, 2007 Dirk, is this picture cropped at the bottom? I'd expect the green stripe, caused here by the sun lighting the border around the active frame, would extend exactly to the centre of the frame. I find it difficult to know whether I am unlucky with two cameras which show this problem or that people who claim not to have it are not trying hard enough. Certainly, when I sent examples to Leica along with a detailed suggestion in German how to address it, they did NOT come back and say "your camera is faulty". Instead, they acknowledged my suggestion and confirmed it would be discussed within the change team. Now, of course, those discussions might have been about which waste bin to put it in. I was careful to bypass CS and target the right people so at face value, it doesn't look to be an isolated fault. OTOH, they may be thinking, "we'll swap camera for those who complain, keep quiet about it otherwise". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted March 7, 2007 Share #16 Posted March 7, 2007 I've been able to reproduce the green streak with any M8 I've tried. Mine certainly does it too, and it's now 'fixed" and updated with newest firmware. This isn't, as Mark said, anything like as bad as the original high ISO streaking. But for weddings, it's a real PITA so I really hope this is the next fix on their list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddawn Posted March 7, 2007 Share #17 Posted March 7, 2007 OTOH, they may be thinking, "we'll swap camera for those who complain, keep quiet about it otherwise". That is actually sound business policy - especially after one recall, you don't want to do another mass recall that could really hurt one's reputation. So the most sensible thing to do, if Leica does know the exact cause of the problem and since the problem is intermittent, would be to quietly replace faulty ones when they are reported. Now the above is purely conjecture, of course.... Can anyone confirm if the latest batch (how can one determine that btw?) of M8s exhibit similar problems? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
de dirk Posted March 7, 2007 Author Share #18 Posted March 7, 2007 Dirk, is this picture cropped at the bottom? I'd expect the green stripe, caused here by the sun lighting the border around the active frame, would extend exactly to the centre of the frame. I find it difficult to know whether I am unlucky with two cameras which show this problem or that people who claim not to have it are not trying hard enough. Certainly, when I sent examples to Leica along with a detailed suggestion in German how to address it, they did NOT come back and say "your camera is faulty". Instead, they acknowledged my suggestion and confirmed it would be discussed within the change team. Now, of course, those discussions might have been about which waste bin to put it in. I was careful to bypass CS and target the right people so at face value, it doesn't look to be an isolated fault. OTOH, they may be thinking, "we'll swap camera for those who complain, keep quiet about it otherwise". mark,due to me being a novice and a clumsy one too in attaching images in this forum, the streak picture is cropped below and at the right; it is originaly of much higher quality...but is destroyed by this green flash.so now it appears that everyone is getting this, now and then?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted March 7, 2007 Share #19 Posted March 7, 2007 Dirk, I think most people are seeing this if they try but only occasionally in real-world pictures. It's certainly much less troublesome in practice than the streaking caused by bright lights inside the frame which was fixed by the hardware recall. My guess is that Leica have taken this up with Kodak - obviously, we do not know the ins-and-outs of it, but they could, for example, be looking for a manufacturing change to the sensor. For the cameras already out there, a firmware fix offers the best hope of a solution. That hope rests on this not being a corruption of the pixel data in the live area but only in the reference area which is used as a baseline for processing the image data. If, somehow, the image data is being corrupted by light bleeding in at the edges, firmware changes are not going to help. In that case, we'll have to get used to watching for light sources around the edge of the frame, and chimping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted March 7, 2007 Share #20 Posted March 7, 2007 I can reproduce it at will on either the left or right of the frame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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