thrid Posted May 21, 2012 Share #41 Â Posted May 21, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sony? For the small runs Leica needs they will only do off-the-shelf, and they have no sensor suitable for an M10 without modification. Â Why not? Sony supplies sensors to many companies. Apparently the one in the X2 is a variant of what is in Nikon and Pentax bodies, unless someone has better information. Â Personally I hope it is a Sony sensor, because they are very good and probably cheaper then if they came from a smaller company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thrid Posted May 21, 2012 Share #42 Â Posted May 21, 2012 Why would the sensor cease to be available? Leica may decide they need a higher resolution sensor or whatever, but as long as they need the existing sensor it will continue to be manufactured (Leica is the only customer for this particular sensor anyway). Â Wasn't it discontinued along with the M9 sensor? I thought I read something somewhere a few weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted May 21, 2012 Share #43 Â Posted May 21, 2012 Wasn't it discontinued along with the M9 sensor? Neither sensor was discontinued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted May 21, 2012 Share #44  Posted May 21, 2012 But not at Summarit prices....  The 28mm Elmarit is £250 more expensive than the 35mm Summarit. In Leica terms that's close <grin>. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoshawnuff Posted May 21, 2012 Share #45 Â Posted May 21, 2012 If Leica could design and produce a 21mm in the same fashion as the other affordable summarit lenses while maintaining their standards of quality; I imagine it would be a huge success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted May 21, 2012 Share #46 Â Posted May 21, 2012 Had the Summarit line of lenses been a huge success then Leica might have been tempted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 21, 2012 Share #47 Â Posted May 21, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Had the Summarit line of lenses been a huge success then Leica might have been tempted. Â That was before the Summicrons started costing $7000+. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoshawnuff Posted May 21, 2012 Share #48 Â Posted May 21, 2012 Had the Summarit line of lenses been a huge success then Leica might have been tempted. Â The focal lengths available in the summarit range are those that are most often used, so many are willing to spend the extra money on a summicron or summilux version of the desired focal length. While 21mm is a more and more popular focal length, it is still something many Leica users go to Zeiss or Voigtlander to buy (knowing they won't be using it as much as their 50 or 35). An $1800-$2000 21mm summarit with 6-bit coding and good modern performance would likely be more popular than any of the other summarit lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamez Posted May 21, 2012 Share #49 Â Posted May 21, 2012 The focal lengths available in the summarit range are those that are most often used, so many are willing to spend the extra money on a summicron or summilux version of the desired focal length. While 21mm is a more and more popular focal length, it is still something many Leica users go to Zeiss or Voigtlander to buy (knowing they won't be using it as much as their 50 or 35). An $1800-$2000 21mm summarit with 6-bit coding and good modern performance would likely be more popular than any of the other summarit lenses. Â Yes i agree and it would fill the niche in my bag nicely. I dont really want to go third party with zeiss or voigtlander. Â Oh and if summarits arent a succes why are they like all other Leica lenses still difficult to source new? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted May 21, 2012 Author Share #50  Posted May 21, 2012 Okay I have been toying between a 28 Summilux and a 75 Summilux.........  I'm gonna be a little unusual and choose the 75 Summilux as No 3. Why? well they stopped production a few years back, it's now recognised more than it was as is 75mm in general, there is now nothing super fast over 50mm plus the 75 APO cron and the 90 APO cron are excellent, accepting there is room for a better 75 APO cron if they can get MTF's as they have with the 50.  Here goes then:  1. M10 2. 35 Summicron APO 3. 75 Summilix  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted May 21, 2012 Share #51 Â Posted May 21, 2012 An APO wide angle lens? Â Another 75mm lens? Maybe a new super expensive lens... but I cannot but that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted May 21, 2012 Share #52  Posted May 21, 2012 That was before the Summicrons started costing $7000+. The Summicron 50 mm costs much less and is still an excellent lens. You don’t have to buy the Apo-Summicron just because it’s available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 21, 2012 Share #53  Posted May 21, 2012 The Summicron 50 mm costs much less and is still an excellent lens. You don’t have to buy the Apo-Summicron just because it’s available.  Entertain yourself by reading all the comments (especially Lars) predicting the discontinuation of the lower priced versions. My comment was in jest, but others have a more cynical view.  I'll personally stick with my 50 Summilux asph.  Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sp12 Posted May 21, 2012 Share #54 Â Posted May 21, 2012 I'd like a 75 Lux/60 ~1.1 along with a 28 ~1.2 Â Though really I expect a 35 APO Cron and M10 featuring live-view and a much improved set of electronics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted May 22, 2012 Share #55 Â Posted May 22, 2012 An $1800-$2000 21mm summarit with 6-bit coding and good modern performance would likely be more popular than any of the other summarit lenses. Â It's not gonna happen, a 21/3.4 already costs almost 3 grand US ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsweeper Posted May 22, 2012 Share #56  Posted May 22, 2012 Here's my guess, I got lucky last time and got three out of three  1. M10 2. 35 Summicron APO 3. Holding off on this for the moment  I think #2 is a certainty, since I just bought a 35 Summicron ASPH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbarad Posted May 22, 2012 Share #57 Â Posted May 22, 2012 Well, personally I don't think we will see the M10 this year. I think its in for 2013 and basically an M9P with the LED Frame lines of the M9ti, an improved display, faster processing and liveview to keep things simple. Appart from 30MP... Â Â For Photokina'12 we will see: Â 1) S3 with 50MP+ 2) The long awaited 1.5 Crop EVIL and R Solution 3) 28mm Summilux ASPH Â B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40mm f/2 Posted May 27, 2012 Share #58 Â Posted May 27, 2012 #2 I would be quite interested but:Leica's new interchangeable lens camera system unlikely to be introduced in 2012 - British Journal of Photography This would require a lot of expertise outside of Leica and a lot of inside development. I do not expect a Leica branded Fuji or Sony - to many problems with existing Leica lenses. I think an incremental camera design like the M10 is more likely - at least until the new factories in Wetzlar and Portugal are up and running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted May 28, 2012 Share #59  Posted May 28, 2012 "It is difficult to phrophesy, especially about the future." The old man from the Kodachrome Age   Not if you have privileged information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted May 28, 2012 Share #60 Â Posted May 28, 2012 I predict we will see #2000 on this thread before Photokina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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