Jump to content

ever heard of telecentric lenses?


antennaboy

Recommended Posts

Advertisement (gone after registration)

Hello Forum,

 

I have recently read about telecentric lenses: they offer an orthographic perspective of the scene, free from natural perspective effects.

Parallel lines remain parallel and don't meet at infinity. Far objects don't appear smaller than closer objects...etc....

 

Anyone knows how they do that? Do they work, intercept only certain rays from the object and use them to create an orthographic projection on the film?

 

thanks,

antennaboy

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hello Forum,

 

I have recently read about telecentric lenses: they offer an orthographic perspective of the scene, free from natural perspective effects.

Parallel lines remain parallel and don't meet at infinity. Far objects don't appear smaller than closer objects...etc....

 

Anyone knows how they do that? Do they work, intercept only certain rays from the object and use them to create an orthographic projection on the film?

 

thanks,

antennaboy

 

First, strictly speaking, there are no consumer (affordable) telecentric lenses. They are quite limited in their application and not useful to general purpose photography. Digital sensors with firmware correction might try to create similar outcomes, but to date it hasn't been complete.

 

How do they do it? The first set of lenses brings the image to infinity (all rays pointing to center), then there is an aperture (effectively at infinity), then the second set of lenses project the image with all rays parallel to each other and perpendicular to the subject, IOW collimated.

 

Sometimes, very long telephoto lenses will create a quite 'flattened' perspective that might look orthographic (or orthographic enough) to illustrate the effect. Recall straight-on photos of a group of people so that the persons behind those in the foreground seem too large. Our sense of perspective is not accustomed to such.

Link to post
Share on other sites

All true 4/3 and m4/3 lenses are telecentric in design. The 4/3 sensor requires a straight light path to gain most from it, and which is why very wide angle 'legacy' lenses show fall off in the corners, because the light hits the photosites at a very acute angle instead of square on.

 

Steve

Link to post
Share on other sites

All true 4/3 and m4/3 lenses are telecentric in design. The 4/3 sensor requires a straight light path to gain most from it, and which is why very wide angle 'legacy' lenses show fall off in the corners, because the light hits the photosites at a very acute angle instead of square on.

 

Steve

 

"Telecentric in design" is not the same as telecentric. The phrase, "Telecentric in design", means "kinda, almost, wishfully telecentric", IOW good enough for quotidian, but not science.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes sir!

 

Steve

 

OMG, did I come off as overly strident? I hope not. I should have a professorialectomy now that I'm retired. Hope we are okay, Steve.

 

p

Link to post
Share on other sites

Advertisement (gone after registration)

All true 4/3 and m4/3 lenses are telecentric in design.

Olympus has always described these lenses as ‘near telecentric’ which isn’t quite the same. These are lens designs where the exit pupil is far from the rear lens but not quite at infinity, i.e. they are nearly but not quite image-space telecentric.

 

If a lens is object-space telecentric, i.e. its entrance pupil is infinitly far from the front lens, it creates the orthographic projection mentioned above.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Is telecentric the same as infinity optics? We have Zeiss and Nikon microscopes with infinity optics at work. They are quite good.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

Hello Pico,

 

if possible, let me ask some basic clarifying questions on your comments about telecentricity...

 

You say that: "...The first set of lenses brings the image to infinity (all rays pointing to center), then there is an aperture (effectively at infinity), then the second set of lenses project the image with all rays parallel to each other and perpendicular to the subject, IOW collimated...."

 

What does it exactly mean that the image is brought to infinity? An object emits rays in all directions. Each point on the object emits its own bundle. If an object is located at "infinity", the rays that belong to a bundle are parallel to each other. But rays that belong to different bundles are not (the are oblique), correct?

 

So the first lens "straighten up" the rays from the object. What does it exactly mean that the second set of lenses project the image with all rays parallel to each other and perpendicular to the subject?

 

to form an image, rays that belong to the same object point need to converge to a point image.....if they are parallel, no point image is formed...

 

thanks,

antennaboy

Link to post
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...