Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 1, 2007 Share #1  Posted March 1, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well I had some portraits to shoot this morning so as many of you are still going back and forth on raw converters like myself . i thought let's try this again. Okay the players are LR,C1 and Aperture which is what i narrowed it down to but leaning at LR and C1 more because right now they are supported for one and i am a big C1 fan . now on the C1 image again i used Edmunds Portrasa profile which i find very nice for skin tone. i picked this image since once she is pretty but more importamt not a load of makeup which would really throw this off and she has normal white skin tones. Now i did shoot a whibal card on a previous shot and WB to that than applied that to the whole shoot which is something I always do under the same lighting . LR and C1 are far easier and faster than Aperture here. Sorry i have a rocket for a machine a MacPro with 6gb of ramm with 2 Raptor 10 k drives running Raid O. That is about as fast as you will get but Aperture takes forever to import and run a huge WB through all of the images . the fastest is LR on this BTW. Just thought i point that out . Speed can kill too. LOL  So there all WB i did just airbrush stray hair and cropped to taste, normal and i did adjust exposure in each program to match , but no contrast or any other setting that would throw this out. i also am uploading the DNG for you guys to play with. Just keep the images on LUF is all i ask  Okay number 1 is Lightroom than followed by C1 and finally Aperture. i immediately see some of the differences and what we need to do  Okay here is the DNG YouSendIt - File Sharing Transfer Delivery - PC FTP Replacement Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17570-new-raw-converter-test/?do=findComment&comment=187141'>More sharing options...
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robsteve Posted March 1, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted March 1, 2007 Guy: Â the lightroom looks pretty good. Just try vibrance with a negative value and it may look a littel flatter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 1, 2007 Share #3 Â Posted March 1, 2007 Yes was just going back to it , LR to me is a touch on the red side. I will try a fresh LR now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 1, 2007 Share #4  Posted March 1, 2007 New LR shot lowered the vibrance to -5 and played with the red a little to the other side Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17570-new-raw-converter-test/?do=findComment&comment=187159'>More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 1, 2007 Share #5 Â Posted March 1, 2007 New lR shot lowered the vibrance to -5 and played withthe red a little to the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted March 1, 2007 Share #6 Â Posted March 1, 2007 Right now, to me, Lightroom looks nice, C1 looks like it may be more accurate, but Aperture looks flat. Which is closer from memory, Guy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 1, 2007 Share #7 Â Posted March 1, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Probably C1 as is but LR with a little adjustment to reds and vibrance and would be right there. Aperture does look flat in this one for some reason. You know you can probably can get the same look in any of them but like always most of us are looking for out of the box solutions. Lets face reality when i have 600 images i want to fly through them. I like to make my WB and maybe a exposure fix and just run them through to the batch . To me C1 is fast but LR is no slouch and with more time on it can really knock them out faster. Aperture is a little slow to me at least to go bing bing bing if you know waht i mean but i am very new to Aperture so that can be me. LR i have found several ways to go fast as in the develop tab to just send one by one very quickly with just keystrokes. I am hoping to learn more at PMA on these 3 products to make a better call on there support and advancements Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted March 1, 2007 Share #8  Posted March 1, 2007 Processed through Aperture, Selective Crop Auto Levels Saturation 1.10 Brightness .05 Contrast .06 Shadows 7.1 Sharpen: Intensity 0.75 Radius 1.50 Export version fit within pixels 960x960, sRGB, 72dpi, Jpeg quality 5 to meet max forum file size.  I looks good on my MBP lets see how it looks on the web Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17570-new-raw-converter-test/?do=findComment&comment=187201'>More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 1, 2007 Share #9 Â Posted March 1, 2007 Everything in Safari is too dark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 1, 2007 Share #10 Â Posted March 1, 2007 Looks better Eoin. I forgot the saturation , my fault Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 1, 2007 Share #11 Â Posted March 1, 2007 I think C1 has the best tonality and exposure range. LR looks like it is clipping a little Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted March 1, 2007 Share #12  Posted March 1, 2007 Just for fun, here it is from LightZone - no adjustments at all: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  and here from Raw Developer, with Jamie's LoSat profile and curves to lighten: This one is quite scary and simply reflects my inexperience with Raw Developer!  Chris Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  and here from Raw Developer, with Jamie's LoSat profile and curves to lighten: This one is quite scary and simply reflects my inexperience with Raw Developer!  Chris ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17570-new-raw-converter-test/?do=findComment&comment=187246'>More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 1, 2007 Share #13 Â Posted March 1, 2007 I shot these with the 75mm lux and anybody says this lens is not sharp , just shoot them. This thing is a razor at 5.6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted March 1, 2007 Share #14 Â Posted March 1, 2007 OK, gotta have that Portrase for windoze! Emailing Edmund, now. Â Nice pic, Guy. Talk about your beautiful teeth! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted March 1, 2007 Share #15  Posted March 1, 2007 The shadow to midtone transition in C1 looks almost posterized. You can see it in the hair, the Lightroom file looks good, the transitions are smoother the whole file looks fatter, more natural. The color and saturation in the Lightroom file look like they could be easily adjusted, but the tonal transitions on the C1 don't look good to me at all and I don't think they could be fixed.  I took the LR jpg and shifted the saturation and color closer to the C1 file. Look at the hair on the right from top to bottom. I'm not liking the C1 at all. The better transitions make the LR file a bit rounder -more 3D as well. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17570-new-raw-converter-test/?do=findComment&comment=187251'>More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 1, 2007 Share #16  Posted March 1, 2007 Bill Edmunds Portrasa is pretty darn nice. C1 tends to be a touch yellow which just lower the Kelvin about 200 and than it should be deadly. I processed the whole shoot in LR this time took a touch more red saturation out and looks fairly good now.  Here is my final on this lady it is the frame before the other but really identical. Lr for this  Hank was just about to post and saw your post . i have seen this in C1 on several ocassions and with my nude i did last week Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17570-new-raw-converter-test/?do=findComment&comment=187256'>More sharing options...
eronald Posted March 1, 2007 Share #17 Â Posted March 1, 2007 Always this perfect lighting, Guy. Amazing how you nail it every time. Â Is this the new or the old firmware ? Â The Aperture file is pretty bad. Lightroom is nice (have to profile that one of these days) and of course Portrasa hits the Raw file pretty bad, but I like that effect ...With all these color things personal taste plays a strong part. Â Edmund Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 1, 2007 Share #18 Â Posted March 1, 2007 It's 1.091 and i am not taking it off. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 1, 2007 Share #19  Posted March 1, 2007 Edmund maybe try that midtone again. I used linear and the Portrasa. That transition i saw on the nude also from light to the mid tone  I agree personal taste does play a role . Were also looking here for dead on no questions asked and that is really hard to do when we all see things differently. But i am much more encourged lately than i have for months on color. i get picky though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted March 1, 2007 Share #20  Posted March 1, 2007 Flat Aperture just to check something Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/17570-new-raw-converter-test/?do=findComment&comment=187264'>More sharing options...
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