ymc226 Posted March 25, 2012 Share #1 Posted March 25, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I want to shoot wide open in daylight but limited by top shutter speed of 1/4000 and don't want to change filters multiple times. A variable ND filter would seem to fit the bill. Which brands have good effects without significant loss of detail and color shift. On the B&H website Formatt, Singh Ray (smallest size is 77 while Noctilux is 60), and Heliopan are brands that are available. I would prefer one that would have threads in front to accept a screw in hood as I put the camera lens face down in my bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Double Negative Posted March 25, 2012 Share #2 Posted March 25, 2012 Neither Singh Ray nor Fader make variable density NDs in a 60mm size, unfortunately. Even in single density filters, Hoya doesn't make a 60mm. That leaves Heliopan and B+W, and it depends on what you're after. If you want to shoot wide open no matter what, a six stop is what you want. If you can live with running out of ISO/shutter speed under the brightest conditions and want to be able to basically leave the ND on all day - a three stop might be enough. There are several paragraphs about filters in this Noctilux-M 50mm f/0.95 ASPH review. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpalme Posted March 26, 2012 Share #3 Posted March 26, 2012 I use a three stop which works 95% of the time. I think most people get a 6 stop. I have the 10 stop also incase I want to do a longer exposure like surf,water movement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted March 26, 2012 Share #4 Posted March 26, 2012 I just remembered reading about variable ND filter for the Noctilux before.. in this thread: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/post1824549-14/ and the whole thread: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/t199155/ I have no idea why I remembered this detail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted March 26, 2012 Share #5 Posted March 26, 2012 Thanks but it says invalid link Very interested to see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted March 26, 2012 Share #6 Posted March 26, 2012 Weird - those worked this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted March 26, 2012 Share #7 Posted March 26, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hmm.. here's the thread again, http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/1824549-post14.html http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/199155-suggestions-f-0-95-noctilux-nd.html The thread title is: Suggestions for f/0.95 Noctilux ND Filter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymc226 Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted March 26, 2012 Thanks for all of your suggestions everyone. I've heard good reports about the Heliopan ND variable filter. As it comes in 62mm, my plan was to use a step up filter. It reduces by 1 to 6.6 stops so I can leave it on all the time for my planned use on the beach or during daytime elsewhere. I'd like a filter with the ability to screw in a hood in front for protection as I just keep the camera lens down while in my bag and which the Heliopan version they sell at B&H doesn't have. On another forum, they pointed out that Heliopan does make a version in 77 available in Germany that has the front screw-in capability. Can anyone who knows German help me out with this webpage: Variograufilter mit Frontgewinde Does the 62mm have screw in capability on the front? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted March 26, 2012 Share #9 Posted March 26, 2012 Does the 62mm have screw in capability on the front? The 62mm, 67mm & 72mm Heliopan Vario ND filters do not have screw threads on the front, in fact neither do the 52mm & 58mm filters have threads. You could use the 67mm Vario ND with a 60mm to 67mm step up ring for the Noctilux. There was another thread on ND filters last week: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/227548-noctilux-nd-filter.html#post2006818 which may interest you. I have a couple of Heliopan vario ND filters, I'm really pleased with them, very well made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted March 26, 2012 Share #10 Posted March 26, 2012 You can't go wrong with either B+W or Heliopan. Pretty much all I've bought (save for one Hoya) in the last 10+ years. Though I'd question using such a large filter on the Nocti. You'll need an adapter ring, a screw-in hood, a new lens cap... Personally, I'd get a 3/6-stop filter (or both) and be done with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*j-w-m* Posted March 27, 2012 Share #11 Posted March 27, 2012 Front threads on a filter that rotates are not that useful. Rotate the filter, rotate whatever is attached to the front of it. I have the Heliopan Vario ND 77mm with no front threads. I read the other forum posts you referenced about buying one with front threads from Germany, but I can't see how front threads would do anything but complicate the setup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted March 27, 2012 Share #12 Posted March 27, 2012 Well, all that would be in front of the filter is a screw-in lens hood - since the built-in one cannot function with a filter/step-up ring of those sizes. Doesn't matter if the hood rotates... While it's a little odd - no more so than using a polarizer w/hood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*j-w-m* Posted March 27, 2012 Share #13 Posted March 27, 2012 True, if it's a round hood that would work. When I bought my vario nd it was for a set of R lenses on which I wanted to use a matte box so I could cover all my wide angle lenses as well. Different scenario than if it's just going to be used on a lens with round hood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted March 28, 2012 Share #14 Posted March 28, 2012 Yeah, it's got to be round... Any venting would be affected however. I actually like that setup myself on the SLRs - though I use rubber hoods, screwed into a polarizer. You can just turn the whole enchilada to dial it in when shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 28, 2012 Share #15 Posted March 28, 2012 Yeah, it's got to be round... Any venting would be affected however. I actually like that setup myself on the SLRs - though I use rubber hoods, screwed into a polarizer. You can just turn the whole enchilada to dial it in when shooting. Who makes good rubber hoods please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted March 28, 2012 Share #16 Posted March 28, 2012 Who makes good rubber hoods please? They're all more or less the same. Some are a bit thicker rubber though. They generally come in a 3-in-1 configuration, depending on how much you pull it out. Some are specifically for wides (they just flare out more). The lens cap size is the same as the other side's filter size which is convenient. Cheap, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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