WilhelmR Posted March 11, 2012 Share #1 Posted March 11, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Today it happened for the second time: after some shoots i switched the camera on to take a photograph - the camera was dead: no led light, no info etc. Switch on/off -on/off: dead. Then i took off the battery and put it in again: everything is fine. The battery was > 75% charged, plenty of space on the memory card, outside temperatur above zero! Any ideas? Wilhelm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted March 11, 2012 Share #2 Posted March 11, 2012 Maybe time to clean the contacts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted March 11, 2012 Share #3 Posted March 11, 2012 This has happened to most cameras I've owned at some stage. It it keeps happening then something is wrong but otherwise it's fair to say most cameras are susceptible to electronic malfunction at some stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revdockj Posted March 11, 2012 Share #4 Posted March 11, 2012 I have had this happen. A different card (read, not a SanDisk card) seems to have solved the problem. What card are you using. Ken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilhelmR Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share #5 Posted March 11, 2012 Jaap, i often have a spare battery in my pocket, I will clean the contacts. Thanks for the advise. Ken, i had problems with (fake?) Sandisk cards, but since i switched to Samsung cards i never had problems again. Wilhelm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 11, 2012 Share #6 Posted March 11, 2012 Today it happened for the second time: after some shoots i switched the camera on to take a photograph - the camera was dead: no led light, no info etc. Switch on/off -on/off: dead. Then i took off the battery and put it in again: everything is fine. The battery was > 75% charged, plenty of space on the memory card, outside temperatur above zero! Any ideas? Wilhelm Which firmware version? Happened to my M9 on older firmware versions. Solution in my case: switch M9 off and on, check if it works, if not, do it again, or push the shutter button. This sometimes happened when I switched the M9 off when it was still busy. I doubt cleaning battery contacts has anything to do with it. It's not an M9 bug - it's a feature! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trylab Posted March 11, 2012 Share #7 Posted March 11, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Exactly the same here last week and it was dead slow reading/writing when it works, Re-upl firmware and cleaning SD card contacts solved the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydeca Posted March 11, 2012 Share #8 Posted March 11, 2012 Re-upl firmware and cleaning SD card contacts solved the problem. The firmware is stored on EPROM and therefore can not be altered (except by the firmware installer). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted March 11, 2012 Share #9 Posted March 11, 2012 Today it happened for the second time: after some shoots i switched the camera on to take a photograph - the camera was dead: no led light, no info etc. Switch on/off -on/off: dead. Then i took off the battery and put it in again: everything is fine. The battery was > 75% charged, plenty of space on the memory card, outside temperatur above zero! Any ideas? Wilhelm My camera always dies when it is below - 15 celsius for tree hours. Maybe replace battery? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tredlie Posted March 13, 2012 Share #10 Posted March 13, 2012 well I can now chime in: all of a sudden my kind of brand new M9 started acting funny until none of back controls would do anything. Taking out the battery did not change anything, the leds in the VF were still active, a shot could be taken but not looked at. Further none of the little buttons on the back did anything. And this half way through my Vietnam trip. To cut a longer story short: apparently the 8GB SanDisk Extreme is broken: the last two DNG files had zero byte count. And replacing it with either of its 1GB and 8GB SD card got the M9 back to life. pffffffffffffff, relief. So it seems, I should get another SD card; which ones would be 'safe'? (quite frankly, as an IT guy I find it sort of hard to believe, that the SanDisk cards should not agree with the M9, but ... here I am). greetings Tre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBarry Posted March 13, 2012 Share #11 Posted March 13, 2012 Stay away from the SanDisk Extreme cards, they do not work well with the M9 as I found out. Ultra are fine. Leica stated before the more recent firmware upgrade that the Extreme had not been cleared for M9 use but post recent firmware upgrade that ALL SanDisk cards had been cleared for use...not so it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tredlie Posted March 14, 2012 Share #12 Posted March 14, 2012 Stay away from the SanDisk Extreme cards, they do not work well with the M9 as I found out. Ultra are fine. Leica stated before the more recent firmware upgrade that the Extreme had not been cleared for M9 use but post recent firmware upgrade that ALL SanDisk cards had been cleared for use...not so it seems. indeed! this leads me to the question: should we report incidents of this sort to Leica or does Leica read the forum? Maybe, someone knows. There is another thread with SanDisk Extreme cards issues only. So quite apparently, Leica still has a problem. cheers Tre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 14, 2012 Share #13 Posted March 14, 2012 Leica reads the forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinj Posted March 15, 2012 Share #14 Posted March 15, 2012 Same thing happened to me last weekend. Sandisk 8GB card in M9. Latest firmware. Was at a birthday party, took 3 shots and then the camera died. Nothing worked. I thought that was it for the M9. Thankfully, I had my HTC smartphone and that saved the day as I was able to take some pictures. So much for M9 and Summilux. After reaching home, I took the card out and put in another card (a cheap 8GB Lexar) and things started to work again. I tried to "break" the Lexar card by shooting a few frames in succession and then powering off the camera while it was writing. Also tried the play button while the write was in progress. Did this a few times, the card still works. The Sandisk SD card was TOTALLY dead - wouldn't work in any laptop or card reader. I lost 3 irreplaceable photos and this is the first time that a card has died on me. I am not sure if it is a combination of M9 + Sandisk or just that the card was faulty. If M9 + Sandisk combination then I am just astounded. In my years of using Sony A850 neither the camera nor any card failed. Ever. And that includes Sandisk cards. I have ordered the Panasonic 8 GB gold card - it apparently has protection against power failure and write issues. It remains to be seen if it works as well as advertised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 15, 2012 Share #15 Posted March 15, 2012 Same thing happened to me last weekend. Sandisk 8GB card in M9. Latest firmware. Was at a birthday party, took 3 shots and then the camera died. Nothing worked. I thought that was it for the M9. Thankfully, I had my HTC smartphone and that saved the day as I was able to take some pictures. So much for M9 and Summilux. After reaching home, I took the card out and put in another card (a cheap 8GB Lexar) and things started to work again. I tried to "break" the Lexar card by shooting a few frames in succession and then powering off the camera while it was writing. Also tried the play button while the write was in progress. Did this a few times, the card still works. The Sandisk SD card was TOTALLY dead - wouldn't work in any laptop or card reader. I lost 3 irreplaceable photos and this is the first time that a card has died on me. I am not sure if it is a combination of M9 + Sandisk or just that the card was faulty. If M9 + Sandisk combination then I am just astounded. In my years of using Sony A850 neither the camera nor any card failed. Ever. And that includes Sandisk cards. I have ordered the Panasonic 8 GB gold card - it apparently has protection against power failure and write issues. It remains to be seen if it works as well as advertised. Please, let us know what you find. Thanks. You may want to read the English text in blue here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/2004666-post79.html and this overview: Panasonic 16GB SDHC Memory Card Class 10 UHS-I RPSDB16GB1K B&H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilhelmR Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share #16 Posted March 15, 2012 It's even worse! I found out, that the card I used is defect. Windows sees the directory structure on it, but it's impossible to format the card. It's impossible to copy files to the card as well. Then I put the card into my camera and wasn't able to format it. BUT: I can take lots of photographs (more than the camera would buffer)! But they are not written to the card. When I press the 'play' key, the camera tells me that the card is empty! Wilhelm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 15, 2012 Share #17 Posted March 15, 2012 Which card? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 15, 2012 Share #18 Posted March 15, 2012 If you are on Mac you could try and repair the file structure through Disk Utility, or even more powerful, Disk Warrior. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilhelmR Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share #19 Posted March 15, 2012 K-H., it's a 1 GB Platinum card. I love it because my computers built-in card reader can't read cards > 1 GB (old machine). So I don't need an extra device. Jaap, it's a Windows notebook. I have the recovery tool from SanDisk, which finds a lot of files, though I format my carts after copying the files to the computer. But I would never use a card, which has been defective once. What makes me sorrow is, that the camera acts like everything is o.k. though no files have been written to the card! Wilhelm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinj Posted March 17, 2012 Share #20 Posted March 17, 2012 Please, let us know what you find. Thanks. You may want to read the English text in blue here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/2004666-post79.html and this overview: Panasonic 16GB SDHC Memory Card Class 10 UHS-I RPSDB16GB1K B&H Thx for the link, the translation was useful. Update: I got the 8GB "gold" card today and tried to "abuse" it as best I could - 1) Rapid shots followed by powering off the camera while write was in progress, 2) Rapid shots followed by pressing the play button while write was in progress. Finally, in the interest of science, I took off the base plate, pressed the tiny switch at the bottom, took a few shots in succession and then removed the battery while data was still being written. The card survived and no data was corrupted. Obviously the data in the buffer that was not yet written was lost and that is fine. This is the link to what I bought and it looks good to to me so far: Panasonic 8GB SDHC Memory Card Class 10 UHS-I RP-SDU08GU1K B&H There are videos online showing this card being tortured: thrown in the washer and run over by a car and then frozen in ice. It apparently worked after all this. That is good enough for me. Good enough, until Leica M9 finds a way to fry this card too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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