jlindstrom Posted March 7, 2012 Share #41  Posted March 7, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I thought it gets quite cold in Finland. I never venture out in frigid weather without a spare warm battery in my pocket. Jeff  It does get cold. But I keep the camera inside my jacket and take it out when I need to. Now that I really think about it, I've had my previous M8 freeze on me once. It was about -25C and I was on a quick stroll.. managed to get maybe 12-20 shots out of it. But I did leave it hanging around my neck outside the jacket for a prolonged time.. so that was my fault, not the cameras.  I did try to buy a spare battery once, but for one reason or the other the dealer never got back to me.. he was supposed to order one and let me know when it's there. And I've never missed one, so I call it even  But I'm now starting to think I should get one, just to have a spare when the current one at some point dies. Who knows how long it'll take to get a new one then!  //Juha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pgk Posted March 7, 2012 Share #42 Â Posted March 7, 2012 One or two bad 32mb cards could be a real problem. Or if you lose a card with 800 images on it - disaster. I've been using a 32Gb card in a Canon 5D2 for underwater film work. It has proven to be very reliable. which is just as well as there is no alternative other than to use large capacity cards as they cannot be changed - and the cost of filming underwater is high. I quite understand the logic of numerous smaller cards. but this argument has always been with us and capacities have always increased. At what point do we decide on a 'safe' capacity card I wonder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted March 7, 2012 Share #43 Â Posted March 7, 2012 Does anyone remember the 'film days'? There were no 'backups' then, unless you were shooting static stuff that could be re-shot on separate rolls. Sometimes I wonder, but don't question, other photog's fixation with carrying laptops, extra tanks, etc. Yes, it is insurance, but what if that gets nicked, or breaks. At some point you have to take responsible risks, IMO. I use a belt to hold my trousers up. Never added braces for insurance. Never lost my trousers, well not for the want of braces anyway. Â When I worked with film, I always calculated how much film I would need in a day, and double it when packing the bag. I often carried 19 different types of film! Glad those days are over! Now, I calculate how many pics I will shoot on a trip (that is essentially a personal value) and then double my card capacity to match. Same theory, different medium. Â I now only buy 8GB cards. For me (in my head), that averages out convenience V's risk of failure of card. I shoot a card till full then pack it back in the bag till I get home. I travel super light (camera bag + overnight bag only) so no room for computers and stuff. One bag on each shoulder and hands free. What doesn't fit in those two bags doesn't come! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 7, 2012 Share #44 Â Posted March 7, 2012 I travel super light (camera bag + overnight bag only) so no room for computers and stuff. Â But a digital M is basically a computer now, and that's the difference. Â I never carried a back-up camera in my film days either (often had another camera, but for different format, film type or lens; not for fear of camera failure). In the digital world I wouldn't think about going on an extended trip without back-up in case of problems, and that includes memory back-up as well as camera and battery back-up. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgrafixstop Posted March 7, 2012 Share #45 Â Posted March 7, 2012 I usually take nine - one in the camera, two in a handly little strap accessory by tamrac and six in a clever compact case by lowepro that came with a camera bag sometime ago. At day's end I can transfer the nearly full one from the camera to the to the case, reload the camera from the strap accessory and replace that from the larger case. With 4 and 8 meg cards under $10 (only buy them on sale, but then by the handful) I use the originals to burn dvd's and then keep the original images filed. I have quite a collection of compact flash, memory stick and sd cards by now and would love a recommendation on an organizational aid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted March 7, 2012 Share #46  Posted March 7, 2012 But a digital M is basically a computer now, and that's the difference. I never carried a back-up camera in my film days either (often had another camera, but for different format, film type or lens; not for fear of camera failure). In the digital world I wouldn't think about going on an extended trip without back-up in case of problems, and that includes memory back-up as well as camera and battery back-up.  Jeff  Jeff, O.K., let's split a few hairs if you wish. Yes , my camera is a computer, as is my back up camera. They are called and used as cameras, so therefore I do have two computers onboard. Hope that is better expressed.  My real point that I attempted to make is the level at which I limit my backup facility. Clearly the limit must be somewhere. I have declared mine, but not suggesting it is better than yours. I choose it to effectively suit my needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 7, 2012 Share #47 Â Posted March 7, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I thought you didn't carry a back-up camera, Erl, just like in your film days. Sorry if I misread. So, my intent was not to split hairs, but rather to mention why I now carry a back-up, i.e., because computers break down, and that's what a camera is these days. Â And I rarely tell others what to do, at least not unless they ask. We each have our methods that work for us; as it should be. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted March 8, 2012 Share #48 Â Posted March 8, 2012 Jeff, yes you are correct. I was not clear when I said 'my camera'. In my head (how could you be expected to know!) 'my camera' is in fact the 'system' that incudes at least one backup camera(computer ). Â Even in my film days I travelled with a minimum of two bodies. These days it can be three. Two digital and one film. Â So easy to make typed messages that aren't clear! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 11, 2012 Share #49 Â Posted March 11, 2012 How much memory do I travel with? I wish my brain had an SD slot. Now I can only answer: insufficient - and not only when travelling... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ornello Posted March 15, 2012 Share #50  Posted March 15, 2012 Lest there be any confusion, I am referring to the digital variety. I am putting the final touches on my kit for the 17 day trip my wife and I are taking to India. This is my first venture with the M9, and first non-film journey. In the past, I would be counting rolls of 120 film (12 exposures per) and calculating how much I really wanted to shlepp. The miracle of the 16gb Lexar card I bought as my first for the M9 gives me approximately 420 RAW images per card. Basically, storage is a non-issue - save for the expense of buying additional cards which go for about $24 per. As a MF film shooter I was most selective since the film was a finite resource. Not so with these cards. I intend to take as many cards as I think I may need and simply not reuse them. And I will have no device for hard drive back-up. I looked at the Sanho Hyper Drive device but did not want to go to the expense or trouble of another electronic device. I would be interested to know how many images per day you plan for when calculating how much flash memory to bring. Obliged, David  I forget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbaddley Posted March 15, 2012 Share #51 Â Posted March 15, 2012 I used to bring a powerbook, an extra lens, and sometimes an M6 and 40 rolls of film in addition to the digital M. I usually travel for a month at a time, and have recently (re)discovered the joys of traveling light. Now I just bring an M9 with a 50mm 1.4 ASPH, 2 16GB SD cards, 2 batteries (and charger), and a Hyperdrive Colorspace UDMA storage device. I shoot anywhere from 60 to 200 exposures per day, and have always felt that I have plenty of storage. Â That's right, I no longer carry a back-up camera, nor do I back-up my storage. Since I'm publicly announcing this I'll probably get slammed on my next trip, but so-far so-good. I'm enjoying the simplicity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fluff Posted March 16, 2012 Share #52 Â Posted March 16, 2012 Unless your trip will be entirely in slums or remote areas you will find it easy enough to buy more cards should you find yourself running out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fluff Posted March 16, 2012 Share #53  Posted March 16, 2012 Now I just bring an M9 with a 50mm 1.4 ASPH, 2 16GB SD cards, 2 batteries (and charger), and a Hyperdrive Colorspace UDMA storage device. I shoot anywhere from 60 to 200 exposures per day, and have always felt that I have plenty of storage. That's right, I no longer carry a back-up camera, nor do I back-up my storage.  So you are trading the high level of stability of flash memory for the low level of safety of a single hard drive, not to mention putting all your eggs into one basket? Seems unwise for all manner of reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onaujee Posted March 16, 2012 Share #54 Â Posted March 16, 2012 I carry about 16GB. That should be approx. 800-900 pictures if all memory is used. I usually don't shoot that many pictures in one day so that is more than enough for me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital~Nomad Posted March 16, 2012 Share #55 Â Posted March 16, 2012 8 x 4gb sandisk cards and a hyperdrive colorspace udma backup drive (with a solid state drive fitted) covers me for a month in Thailand and Cambodia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted March 16, 2012 Share #56 Â Posted March 16, 2012 Seems to me that whatever digital solution individuals choose use, it is, to some degree as safe or safer than filmic options. Up until not many years ago, film and it's inherent risks were the only option and we all embraced it happily. Â It seems that now, digital has made everyone nervous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 16, 2012 Share #57  Posted March 16, 2012 I thought it gets quite cold in Finland. I never venture out in frigid weather without a spare warm battery in my pocket. Jeff  I never venture out without an extra battery and SD card in my pocket, if without shoulder bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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