digitalpowershot Posted January 23, 2012 Share #21 Posted January 23, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Personllly I do not think the M10 will be announced at Photokina 2012. Having in mind the strong demand for the M9/P and the ending of the "resolution war" (Canon 1DX, Nikon D4), there is no need for a M10 yet. Look at Canon: they announced their top of the line 1DsMKIII in August 2007! and it's successor the 1DX will not be available until March 2012! That's why I would be surprised to see the M10 at Photokina 2012. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjh Posted January 23, 2012 Share #22 Posted January 23, 2012 Resolution isn’t everything. Yes, the resolution wars may be over, but that doesn’t mean there was nothing left to be improved. And the demand for the M9 being strong right now isn’t really relevant. You develop an M10 to be able to satisfy the demand in, say, one year’s time. Which is when a camera announced at photokina could be available in significant quantities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 23, 2012 Share #23 Posted January 23, 2012 Didn't a Leica spokesperson say "... and it will not be made by Leica." ?. I think that quote was in reference to the then 'R solution' which is probably as dead as a Dodo by now, although it's possible that the rumoured new EVIL could be made in partnership with another firm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Printmaker Posted January 23, 2012 Share #24 Posted January 23, 2012 My first Leica was a M2R. I upgraded to a M4 about a year later at nearly twice the cost ($400) because I thought the new angled rewind would be faster (it was not) and the frame counter was internal. The 135 framelines didn't matter all that much to me as I used a Nikon F with a 105 for portraits etc. Seems kinda silly now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted January 24, 2012 Share #25 Posted January 24, 2012 I could sit here talking about how the M9 is perfect and I don't need an M10, but the truth of the matter is: if an M10 comes out, I will probably get one. New Leicas are just too much fun. Here's what I'm hoping for: CMOS sensor EVF and Live View, and a 4:3 aspect ratio (that definitely won't happen unfortunately). Yes, you guys heard me. Of course, I will hang on to my M9 with its beautiful CCD and optical rangefinder. I believe in horses for courses, and while I am doing all kinds of shooting with my M9, but an M10 with the above features would really supplement the M9 and offer me what I need for low-light shooting and portraiture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted January 24, 2012 Share #26 Posted January 24, 2012 If I remember well, Daniel said the new M will take "a little" more than the normal period of three years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpowershot Posted January 24, 2012 Share #27 Posted January 24, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) If I remember well, Daniel said the new M will take "a little" more than the normal period of three years. It does not matter to me, my brand new M9-P just arrived Yeaaah, finally!! ...and since I'm not a gear-guy, I'm gonna keep this baby for a very very long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40mm f/2 Posted January 24, 2012 Share #28 Posted January 24, 2012 I am quite content with the M9 as a digital RF - so I am not interested in "upgrading" to the next model. But RF has for my photographic interests 2 mayor limitations: Macro: a APS C sensor with good focus confirmation EVIL. The 1.5 lens factor and increase in DF would be an advantage for this application. Wide angle shift lenses: a square sensor would be great like 30x30 mm (or larger) So I am more curious about anything Leica plans to release other than RF. The present choices are NEX-7 (not good with RF wide angle) or Fuji X-1 (no tests yet). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted January 24, 2012 Share #29 Posted January 24, 2012 but i will only have had the m9 for two! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 25, 2012 Share #30 Posted January 25, 2012 One thing I can for certain about the M10, whenever it may appear. Someone will be horribly offended that a crucial feature they want has not been included ("How can Leica be so backward in 201x?!") - and Leica will still sell every one they can make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeTexas Posted January 25, 2012 Share #31 Posted January 25, 2012 I have to wonder, do you think they'll really call it the M10 and go into double-digit M numbers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 25, 2012 Share #32 Posted January 25, 2012 I have to wonder, do you think they'll really call it the M10 and go into double-digit M numbers? They could go hexadecimal (“MA”) or Roman (“MX”) but IMO, “M10” is a fine name for a camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeTexas Posted January 25, 2012 Share #33 Posted January 25, 2012 They could go hexadecimal (“MA”) or Roman (“MX”) but IMO, “M10” is a fine name for a camera. MX would put them in the same X-treme marketing realm as Panasonic, Canon and Fuji! lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted January 25, 2012 Share #34 Posted January 25, 2012 They could go hexadecimal (“MA”) or Roman (“MX”) but IMO, “M10” is a fine name for a camera. MX belongs to superb Pentax MX. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 25, 2012 Share #35 Posted January 25, 2012 MX belongs to superb Pentax MX. I know. As a matter of fact I still own one. But nearly all the good names have been used up a long time ago so I’m afraid we have to make do with refurbished ones. Leica’s X1 wasn’t the first X1 either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janki Posted January 25, 2012 Share #36 Posted January 25, 2012 What about XM? A guy in the street had the original XM, when I grew up. Everyone admired him. Later he went to Leica R. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/171170-m10-at-photokina-merged/?do=findComment&comment=1909034'>More sharing options...
Guest MikeN Posted January 25, 2012 Share #37 Posted January 25, 2012 Just and perhaps a stupid question: Supposed Leica would come up with a M10, new sensor, improved handling, etc... Could there also be a chance that a M9 might be upgraded to a M10? So that the mechanics remain stable but only digital technology is being changed? I'd like to have a "green" and sustainable Leica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatkob Posted January 25, 2012 Share #38 Posted January 25, 2012 I could sit here talking about how the M9 is perfect and I don't need an M10, but the truth of the matter is: if an M10 comes out, I will probably get one. New Leicas are just too much fun. I think you are speaking for many people here, especially those who have the resources to buy an M10. Imagine a Leica M10 comes out and it improves on a number of key features such as high ISO ability, buffer speed, LCD quality, battery life, etc. Those with the cash to buy one will not be able to resist for more than a day. The M9 will suddenly seem like the perfect "backup" camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erg Posted January 26, 2012 Share #39 Posted January 26, 2012 The form-factor is one of the most important characteristics of the M cameras for me. Ever since the digital M bodies became thicker because of the display, I was wondering if it will be possible to produce a digital M with the same thickness as the M7 again. Shouldn't the latest generation of displays and electronics allow to design a thinner M body ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 26, 2012 Share #40 Posted January 26, 2012 It isn't just the LCD thickness, it is also the thickness of the sensor, and the circuit board on which it is mounted. Take a look at this top view of the X-Pro 1: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/fujifilmxpro1/images/top.jpg Note the image-plane index mark (circle with a line through it, to the left of the hot shoe), which denotes the location of the sensor. HALF the camera thickness (over 1 cm) is behind the sensor. And this is a brand-new camera, designed in 2011 using "the newest generation of displays and electronics." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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