wda Posted January 16, 2012 Share #21 Posted January 16, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) ncali12, much depends on for what purpose you intend the pictures obtained while trekking. For an exhibition or publication in any size, go for the X1 and accept that you will use your legs as a zoom. Otherwise, the DLux5 would be a good choice. I have both, but the above criteria would influence my choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ncali12 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share #22 Posted January 16, 2012 Thanks, yes, I'll do that. I was trying to avoid it as the best camera shop for that is about 1 13 hour drive from where I live but oh well, there's always lots to see along the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 16, 2012 Share #23 Posted January 16, 2012 Yeah, the Fujis look nice -- but I haven't used them so can't judge results. I did get to handle a X-100. I wasn't so keen on the built-in finder; I found the accessory 24 finder for the Leica much clearer. At less than half the price of the X1, and eight times less than the M9, the D-Lux 5 is good value. LX-5 version even more so. I don't think the M9 will be obsolete -- if it continues producing great pictures you are happy with, that is the main thing -- but technology is certainly evolving fast. For example, compare an older digital compact, even one made a few years earlier, and the D-Lux 5 is way ahead in terms of image quality. The Panasonic LX-5 cost me half the price of the D-Lux-5 for essentially the same camera. The EVF cost was also half the Leica equivalent. Unless the Red Dot appeal is worth the extra US$500-600 (camera + EVF), go with the Panny and the money you save will pay for much of your new trekking gear. We just spent 3 months this last summer in Northern Spain/Southern France and the longer my treks went on the less gear I took each and every day until I left the M9 behind and just carried the LX-5 many days. It takes candid shots with virtually no shutter noise. I kept it in a little Zing neoprene bag and that was all I needed besides using a padded neoprene wrist strap from Op/Tech. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Holy Moly Posted January 16, 2012 Share #24 Posted January 16, 2012 PS As for where I will be trekking, I'll be doing the Camino to Santiago (across northern Spain) and then some traveling in Morocco and Switzerland. AL Here is the HP from a young guy who travelled at first with borrowed cameras from Leica. This didn't work for him due to the different 'speed' of his mind, the way itself and the fast Ms. The next camino he used a pinhole camera and this in great harmony: Santiago Galerie Sorry, only in German, but use google chrome for translation..... Have a safe trip with your mind in peace..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Jones Posted January 16, 2012 Share #25 Posted January 16, 2012 A year ago I went on a 3 week trip to NZ, riding Harleys round both islands. Between four of us there was a Dlux5, X1 and M9. What we found was the X1 produced slightly less quality than the M9 (i.e. less lens contrast) but X1 had no problems with dust on the sensor. The Dlux5 pics were never quite in the same class as the other 2. The X1 is my choice of travel camera, because of the dslr quality in light weight package. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/170548-selecting-a-travel-camera/?do=findComment&comment=1899928'>More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted January 16, 2012 Share #26 Posted January 16, 2012 Funny that people suggest the D-Lux5. For not much more, you can buy the Fuji X100 which runs IQ circles around the small sensor Pana/Leica, and it does it blindfolded, one legged and fully drunk. If you add the Leica OVF to the D-Lux 5, it will cost you even more than the X100. As you are thinking of potentially going the M9 route, have a look at the Ricoh GXR m-mount. An excellent compact solution for m-mount lenses and a great backup for your future M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio58 Posted January 16, 2012 Share #27 Posted January 16, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Don't forget the Nikon V1 Ed That little Nikon seems to be an amazing little camera. No shutter lag ! Is that the case with all the current new generation (up market) compacts ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 17, 2012 Share #28 Posted January 17, 2012 Funny that people suggest the D-Lux5. For not much more, you can buy the Fuji X100 which runs IQ circles around the small sensor Pana/Leica, and it does it blindfolded, one legged and fully drunk. If you add the Leica OVF to the D-Lux 5, it will cost you even more than the X100. As you are thinking of potentially going the M9 route, have a look at the Ricoh GXR m-mount. An excellent compact solution for m-mount lenses and a great backup for your future M9. +1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosswaugh Posted January 23, 2012 Share #29 Posted January 23, 2012 If you are going down the D-Lux 5 /LX 5 route, I would suggest that you have a serious look at the new Canon S100. The Leica/Panny are 2 year old technology now (update due later this year), where as the Canon has just been released - latest processor etc. I brought the S100 for my daughter 3 weeks ago having had a good long look at the D-Lux 5/LX 5. The Canon has a good lens (f2), GPS, ND filters, good zoom range for this class of camera. Review on DP Review if you want more information. I have been impressed with the size, performance and sharpness. Lots of manual shooting options, and the lens ring is very nice and easy to use. Just seemed to be a better camera for the money right now. Later in the year the Leica/Panny twins will probably be better - just where we are in the release cycles. I have been seriously examining the Leica X1 or Fuji X100 choice myself for a trip to the Nordic countries in June. Have read heaps of evaluations and reviews - in terms of IQ there does't seem to be much in it - the X1 ahead by a nose from what I can work out. X1 is smaller, X100 has the hybrid viewfinder. Both have 'slow' AF issues if you are into street photography. If you are thinking of going this route, and can wait until March / April, I would suggest waiting for the Fuji X-Pro 1 and X100 Limited Edition to hit the market - then heaps of people will be ditching their 'old' X100's and they will be available for a very reasonable price on auction sites. In that way you won't lay down too much cash for a X100 in the interim, and will have it available to purchase the M10, X2 or Leica mirrorless that are anticipated for Photokina in September With regard to the Fuji X10 - looks like a nice camera, but much the same as the Digilux 2 I already have (and love using) so haven't done too much research in that area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncali12 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share #30 Posted January 23, 2012 Hi, Thanks for your post. all of which is quite helpful. I agree with you about the value of waiting to get something. I find I am still wavering. A friend just got the X1 and loves it. So, for awhile I tipped in that direction but then I like the hybrid view finder of the X100, the look of the camera and also the f2 lens. ...and then, I like the smaller size of the X1. Can't help wondering if Leica will come out with an X2 hybrid or f2 lens. ...then the balance tilted back toward the D-Lux 5--as a less expensive interim camera to do the job until I can get the FujixPro-1 or X2 (if that is going to happen). I'm going to be leaving the end of March--traveling a bit in Portugal and Morrocco and then up to Switzerland and London. I suppose if worse comes to worse, I could use my M6 during the first part and then maybe by the time I get to London in mid/late-April, buy whatever is available for the pilgrim trek in Spain. I'll take a look at the Canon S100. Thanks for the suggestion. I don't know too much about digital. I have an old Nikon coolpix which is not impressive. A friend loaned me a Canon G10 a few times and I wasn't wild about it either. Image quality suffers in both. I suppose the M6 can spoil a person. Whatever the case, I'm going to be trekking for 40 days on the Camino de Santiago and need a decent, light camera. Thanks for your feedback. AL PS I just spent 3 weeks in Norway in November. Always a fabulous place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosswaugh Posted January 23, 2012 Share #31 Posted January 23, 2012 Nice to know the comments were useful. I hope your travel all goes well. I will interested to know what you finally decide. The reality is you can't really go wrong with any of the camera's being discussed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted January 25, 2012 Share #32 Posted January 25, 2012 Good luck, have fun, and let us know how you get on! I still think you'd be pleased with the D-Lux. And maybe consider another new model (possibly from Leica) later on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted January 26, 2012 Share #33 Posted January 26, 2012 If you already have an M-Leica, why not select your favourite M-lens (a 35mm or wider if you plan on taking only one lens), and get one of the mirror less cameras available - eg NEX-7 (reports are very good, and it has a fabulous built in EVF), NEX-5n (smaller than the NEX-7, cheaper, but you need to add the EVF), or the Ricoh GXR with A12 module (the best sensor with Leica M lenses). These options are all slightly bigger and more awkward than the smaller cameras you have been considering, but it pays off in IQ, and if you're considering taking an M6, smaller and lighter than that option. If it were me, I'd take my 35/1.4 ASPH (FLE) and I'd smuggle in my AA 75/2, with my NEX-5n. Not too,heavy or bulky, and lots of fun. Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted January 27, 2012 Share #34 Posted January 27, 2012 I'm traveling in India right now with the Lumix DC-LX5 and the Canon S95 (couldn't get the 100 before I left. Both are great, but there is no question to me that the Lumix (maybe due to the Leica lens) gets noticeably better images. I took some photos for a hospital today of a crowd posing for a photo, and the Lumix images looked far better than those from a Nikon D50 (with Tamron lens). For quality, I love the Lumix, but it doesn't fit into a nice belt pouch as the Canon does. For a small carry-around camera, I'd suggest the Lumix (same as the D-Lux 5, at half the price. I'd also suggest buying the Lumix add-on wide angle lens, as it's not all "that" expensive, and allows you to get photos you'd otherwise not be able to take. If you will do videos, the small electronic viewfinder that goes on top is also plenty handy. On the other hand, if you want a camera that you can put on your belt, forget about it, and always have it when needed, the Canon cameras (S90, 95, 100) are a lot more convenient. (I wanted to buy the Fuji X100, but decided against it, assuming it would be upgraded to fix the things people were complaining about. On my next trip I plan to bring the new Pro 1, along with either of my small P&S cameras, probably the Lumix. I wish there was a belt pouch available for the Lumix, similar to that for the Canon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 28, 2012 Share #35 Posted January 28, 2012 Mike I have the LX-5 with EVF always attached and I keep it in a 6Hx5W Zing neoprene pouch that has has a pull strap at the top. It has a clip at the top and a sewn in belt loop under that clip at the opposite end of the pull strap. So perhaps you could check this out. They cost less than $10 bucks if I remember correctly. Even if you get one and you don't like it for your LX-5, it holds the odd small M lens very nicely for a days walk around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted January 28, 2012 Share #36 Posted January 28, 2012 I have a Lowepro padded case and neck strap which accommodates the D-Lux 5 with accessory 24 finder. Less than 300 g/10 oz. Outdoor Photography magazine rated the Lumix LX-5 very highly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulev Posted January 28, 2012 Share #37 Posted January 28, 2012 I'm impressed by the image quality of the X100. Check this article bout it's Dynamic Range: Fuji X100: Crazy Dynamic Range Over here you can check a number of photographers and, more important their work: X100 In Action | FUJIFILM FinePix X100 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpmac55 Posted January 28, 2012 Share #38 Posted January 28, 2012 I own a X100 and suggest you get used to it before going on a trip. Besides not being pocketable, the user interface is a bit perplexing and some users have experienced sticky aperture blades. Otherwise, a wonderful camera with aforementioned great image quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted February 1, 2012 Share #39 Posted February 1, 2012 Well worth checking out: Leica blog of travel photos shot with the Leica D-Lux 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knors Posted February 4, 2012 Share #40 Posted February 4, 2012 If the size is important i think that the D-lux 5 or the Panasonic LX-5 will be a good choice. These camera's offer good quality and are very easy to use ; they start with a wide angle plus another 4 times zoom and all of this fitting in one small pocket!! If you have more room and like to use the Leica lenses as on your Leica, a micro 4/3 camera with an adapter for your favourite Leica lens(es) may be a very good alternative. rgds Cor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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