tnturnerx1 Posted November 23, 2011 Share #1 Â Posted November 23, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just bought an X1 and have had it 2 weeks. I'm terribly disappointed in the image quality. I'm seriously considering returning it. Also, the firmware update was so fast, I even doubted it worked. The menu displayed "firmware version 2.0" but I didn't know if it was truly updated, so I updated it again. No difference. I have since discovered a few things. There are many posts about the X1 regarding slow focus. I think what those people should say is "bad focus at slow shutter speed". Your hand simply cannot hold the camera still during the time it takes for the X1 to focus. I tested X1 under different light conditions, and with fully auto operation, this camera just won't work for dim light situations. Outside, with lower ISO, and auto shutter speed from 1/40-1/80, I get good shots. Any slower shutter speeds result in unfocused images. This camera, with a hot-shoe flash, may be suitable for indoor shots, but I don't know. Has anyone else had the same experience with such poor image quality? Like I said above, pics outdoors with fast shutter speed and low iso seem to solve the problem, but in any lower light situation, with auto everything, the show shutter speed renders the images unusable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted November 23, 2011 Share #2 Â Posted November 23, 2011 The same answer as to the virtually identical post you made elsewhere: Â Are you expecting AF to change focus during a long exposure?. On all cameras in the world that is not the case, it would make for some funny images. If you are unable to keep a camera pointed at your subject for half a second, may I suggest the use of a tripod - not for camera stability, but for framing... I am no fan of arm's-length composing on an LCD, nor of other point-and shoot features, reason I will not buy an X1 or similar, but if you are unable to get excellent low light results with the X1 there can be but one conclusion - pilot error. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk60091 Posted November 23, 2011 Share #3 Â Posted November 23, 2011 Go away troll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
symmetron Posted November 23, 2011 Share #4 Â Posted November 23, 2011 It's true the X1 has some focusing issues in low light. I experienced almost the same situation when I uploaded Firmware 2.0. I never really saw any difference and had no basis of comparison with Firmware 1.0. I also reloaded 2.0 without any apparent change. Â Regarding focusing in low light, you might want to change the focusing to "spot" so you can aim it in an area that has some contrast. That's the setting I use and it has helped somewhat. Â As far as poor image quality is concerned, that shouldn't be happening. If the camera is in the "Image stabilization" mode turn it off. It doesn't work well except in certain circumstances; which is unlike other P&S cameras. The IS mode has issues and Leica knows about it. I was having some issues with it and Leica asked for some samples to be sent to Solms. Their advice was to leave IS off, I have, and the results are fine, except for steadying at lower shutter speeds which is entirely technique and not camera related. Â If you have IS off and the image quality is poor, then something's wrong with your camera. Most users on the forum have good experience in lower light. Â Unfortunately, the X1 can be frustrating to use. It takes work, but the image quality will not disappoint once things are rolling. Be patient, and give it a try if the situation permits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taskoni Posted November 26, 2011 Share #5 Â Posted November 26, 2011 There's always a manual focus - I never had any problems focusing in low light manually Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted November 26, 2011 Share #6 Â Posted November 26, 2011 Zombie style camera which I find worthless and would never buy it. Try a 35mm finder in the hot shoe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted November 26, 2011 Share #7 Â Posted November 26, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) ....Has anyone else had the same experience with such poor image quality? Like I said above, pics outdoors with fast shutter speed and low iso seem to solve the problem, but in any lower light situation, with auto everything, the show shutter speed renders the images unusable. Have you tried using the camera on a tripod? That should eliminate camera shake as a cause. Â Your experience is most unusual. Why not discuss the problem with your dealer? If he sees a problem due to the camera, he will replace it for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taskoni Posted November 26, 2011 Share #8 Â Posted November 26, 2011 Zombie style camera which I find worthless and would never buy it. Try a 35mm finder in the hot shoe. Â Don't buy it if you don't like it. Now tell us something useful - how the 35mm finder in the hot shoe will improve the focus problems in low light the OP has? Â Cheers, Â b. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted November 27, 2011 Share #9 Â Posted November 27, 2011 The X1 AF is slow, but it's accurate, even in low light when AF soooo slooooow. Shutter speed has nothing to do with it and neither has camera shake. AF is AF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Lane Posted November 28, 2011 Share #10  Posted November 28, 2011 The X1 AF is slow, but it's accurate  My thoughts exactly - the AF reminds me so much of my Olympus E-1, which is the only other digital camera that I still have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnturnerx1 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share #11 Â Posted November 29, 2011 You have some outstanding photos, but are they post-processed? By the way, you don't have to flame me ("go away troll"). I have valid issues with this camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnturnerx1 Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share #12 Â Posted November 29, 2011 I won't be reading or posting anything more on this site. People here seem to be more interested in flaming other people's opinions and experiences rather than offering helpful advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted November 29, 2011 Share #13 Â Posted November 29, 2011 Without evidence in your new thread, this is a rather hollow excuse. I haven't time to research what has gone before, but if you have a problem with your X1 I suggest you go back to your dealer to help you find a solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 29, 2011 Share #14 Â Posted November 29, 2011 Please do not start multiple threads on the same subject. We have to merge them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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