Studio58 Posted December 3, 2011 Share #21 Â Posted December 3, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'd avoid ebay on this purchase. Too many issues to justify the savings. I bought my M9 on Ebay ... 2000 actuations and perfect working order. Like new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LikeMyLeica Posted December 7, 2011 Share #22 Â Posted December 7, 2011 I bought my M9 on Ebay ... 2000 actuations and perfect working order. Like new. Â This all leaves me highly perplexed... Â There are currently three M9s, I think, for sale on eBay UK: two substantial bundles including lenses and accessories, offering perhaps prospects of greater savings(?), and one body. The sellers of the bundles imply they've been little and not used respectively; the seller of the body states categorically it has not been used and shows a picture not of a Passport but of a Passport Application Form. Does that mean that the Form can still be filled in and submitted? If not, I read around on the web and it seems Passports are transferrable in the UK, if not in North America. Leica's site states that the dealer's identity is required for a Warranty Extension; two of the sellers claim to have original receipts. In the case of the body, the saving is not that great, so I guess it might be wiser to go to a dealer - unless I can bargain him down... Â Any thoughts or advice gratefully received! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted December 7, 2011 Share #23 Â Posted December 7, 2011 As long as it was originally bought from a UK leica dealer it should have a 2 year warranty and 1 year passport if it was registered by the dealer (only official leica dealers can apply for the passport) If it doesn't have a valid passport personally I would pay a couple of hundred pounds more to get my camera from either Red Dot (Ivor is always very helpful), RG lewis or Caplans who are the main dealers in London Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpalme Posted December 7, 2011 Share #24 Â Posted December 7, 2011 Keep an eye out for used M9s at popflashphoto. I got a used one with 5 clicks on it for $6200. I'm not sure how they do it but it is actually new and for some reason have to advertise it as used to sell at that price. It arrived with the rangefinder misaligned but I found out it does have the new warranty of 2 years. So I'm sending it back but anyway that is something to ask when buying used. Ask if they can do a focus test to make sure the rangefinder is aligned. Even when new ask if they can check it before shipping .. they won't open the box unless you ask. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeMyLeica Posted December 7, 2011 Share #25  Posted December 7, 2011 As long as it was originally bought from a UK leica dealer it should have a 2 year warranty and 1 year passport if it was registered by the dealer (only official leica dealers can apply for the passport) If it doesn't have a valid passport personally I would pay a couple of hundred pounds more to get my camera from either Red Dot (Ivor is always very helpful), RG lewis or Caplans who are the main dealers in London  Thanks for the explanations! Though I'm now doubly mystified as to how the seller of the body has a Passport application form...  I should say, one of the dealers you kindly suggest was very rude when I first visited the shop recently, to buy a small item; it has rather put me off buying from that shop again, even though I can now afford a much bigger purchase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted December 7, 2011 Share #26  Posted December 7, 2011 Thanks for the explanations! Though I'm now doubly mystified as to how the seller of the body has a Passport application form... I should say, one of the dealers you kindly suggest was very rude when I first visited the shop recently, to buy a small item; it has rather put me off buying from that shop again, even though I can now afford a much bigger purchase.  If the seller is advertising the serial number you maybe able to check with leica to see if it has a valid passport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriklouko Posted August 1, 2012 Share #27  Posted August 1, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi,  This thread has been very useful. I am also planning on buying a used M9-P.  The dealer is one of the most reputed dealers in Finland (Rajalacamera.fi verkkokauppa). They are giving a very limited warranty to the camera of 1 month. The store has a good reputation and therefore I am thinking it should be a good deal.  The camera is in mint condition with no visible signs of use.  However: - They do not have the original purchase receipt (would I need this for something) - They could not tell me how old the camera was - They did not know where it had been bought from - The warranty information had not been filled The price is €5300.  Just because of their reputation I am willing to forgo a full and assured checklist. However, if I get a receipt form the store is that enough. How about getting into "Leica Owner" material online etc.  Above somebody mentioned "passport". What is that. Also what else should I ask to see before I make my decision.  I appreciate your comments and thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 1, 2012 Share #28 Â Posted August 1, 2012 It is not a very good price imo. One month is not much of a guaranty. Without any knowledge about the provenance of the camera, how can you or they be sure that it is clean and not stolen? If there is no original receipt, it will be difficult to claim factory guaranty, if it still applies.(not unlikely with a camera less than three years on the market with two years guaranty) A passport applies to UK residents only. I'm sure there are better deals out there. Check with the well-known dealers like Meister, ffordes, Maison du Leica, Henny Hoogeveen, etc There are many, and their names are mentioned regularly in this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted August 1, 2012 Share #29 Â Posted August 1, 2012 Were talking here about a 5000 GBP camera ....... Â There are only really 2 sorts of buyers...... Â 1). Normal people who make a considered purchase, look after it and sell on because they have to, don't get on with it or are upgrading to something else. Â 2). People with more money than sense that buy it as a 'luxury brand' purchase and get bored with it and dispose of it. Â Statistically, neither are going to flog you a dud and if there are minor issues they can usually be remedied and still leave you financially better off..... Â and..... Â Used gear has usually been 'battlefield tested' and any initial problems ruled out or sorted. Â Half my Leica stuff is used and I've had no issues apart from a 50/1.4 that needed calibration .... which is more than can be said for the new stuff, with a 50/1.4, 75/2, 18/3.8, 28/2 and M9 all having to be replaced or adjusted.... Â As long as you avoid unbelievable ebay bargains with 'off ebay' deals paid via western union and other such scams you should be ok. Â Even with a short warranty, opto-electronic gear either works properly or it doesn't .... and if the photos are ok and in focus it must be adjusted ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 1, 2012 Share #30 Â Posted August 1, 2012 The best thing to do I think, is to buy a beater three-year old @ well under 4000 Euro and have it upgraded. That will gain you an as-new M9P with one year factory guaranty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotharZhou Posted August 2, 2012 Share #31 Â Posted August 2, 2012 +1, my experience in buying second hand M8 is exactly like this, Bought one from a dealer in London and it's perfect, my friend bought one M8 from the sell section on the forum, cost him 600euro for shutter repair, really not worth the risk. Â Â +1Â Buy from a dealer. The risk is not worth the minimal cost savings, which will be quickly forgotten if any issues arise. Leica M9's are wonderful cameras, but they are also complex electromechanical devices that can be very expensive to repair. Â Stephen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFNewcomer Posted August 3, 2012 Share #32 Â Posted August 3, 2012 Referring to the Rajala case (Finland), it does not sound that they are offering a very good deal, give the price and lack of details. My experience of that store has been mixed and they are not professionals in the same way that someone like Red Dot in London is, I believe. Different league altogether. Just my opinion, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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