Holybasil Posted September 10, 2011 Share #21 Posted September 10, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Looks like a good performer. Better sharpness and less creamy bokeh than the v1 by the looks of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 Hi Holybasil, Take a look here new CV 35 1.2 on m9?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
viramati Posted September 10, 2011 Share #22 Posted September 10, 2011 I tried one out at classic cameras in London today and I must say I was left with mixed feelings. It didn't seem to show any fringing wide open that the old version showed when I tried it but it did seem really quite soft when wide open. this of course could be just down to the version I tested. Also it is a very large lens and they didn't have a lens hood for it for me to try but even without out it nearly got as far as the 75mm frame-lines!! so I hate to think what it would be like with the hood. I think at high iso and for low light it could be a great and considerably cheaper option than the new lux 35. I liked the bokeh wide open and it appears to me to have quite low contrast which could be a bonus in low light. Anyway If I had money to spare I might consider it except for its shear bulk Just to add I manually coded it as the new lux asph and found that there was very little vignetting though quite a bit of distortion. I viewed an worked on the images I took in LR3. so pluses for me were the f1.2, nice bokeh, lack of vignetting, colours seemed good and of course the price down side. size (didn't test with hood) impingement into finder, soft wide open and distortion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
photoarne Posted September 10, 2011 Share #23 Posted September 10, 2011 What kind of distortion did you observe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted September 10, 2011 Share #24 Posted September 10, 2011 Barrel distortion but nothing that couldn't be corrected with the lens correction tool in LR3 It also has remarkably little magenta shift on the edges!! If only it was a bit smaller!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
photoarne Posted September 10, 2011 Share #25 Posted September 10, 2011 Thanks. Did you notice any focus-shift when stopping down? This is the bane of my Lux FLE and cause for looking at alternatives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted September 10, 2011 Share #26 Posted September 10, 2011 Only tried it wide open. there is a long thread here http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted September 10, 2011 Share #27 Posted September 10, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thx for this link, Viramati, very interesting. Best GEORG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezc203 Posted September 11, 2011 Share #28 Posted September 11, 2011 I've been looking at this lens (the older version) for a while now but never pulled the trigger. Now with the updated version, I'm even more intrigued. That said, from my research (what little I've done) I've noticed the bokeh to be quite "busy". Which seems to be a cliche / common complaint about "cheaper lenses". So am I being obnoxious or does anyone agree with me? (IE: Bar shot with the hanging glasses) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted September 11, 2011 Share #29 Posted September 11, 2011 I quite liked it's bokeh but then I've go no summilux asph shots to compare it to. just a note the 35 lens being quite wide you will always tend to have a lot of area in the while be OOF like in enviromental portraits and background will often be quite busy in itself whereas shots taken with a 50,75 or 90 will tend to have less background as the subject will fill the frame more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted September 11, 2011 Share #30 Posted September 11, 2011 I've been looking at this lens (the older version) for a while now but never pulled the trigger. I've noticed the bokeh to be quite "busy". Which seems to be a cliche / common complaint about "cheaper lenses". So am I being obnoxious or does anyone agree with me? (IE: Bar shot with the hanging glasses) I think, the glasses are rendered pretty nice here, I feel the bokeh of other V/C-lenses is much harsher, with this 35 the V/C-designers did a splendid job. Here is another example with some lightbulbs in the back, very pleasing to my eye. best GEORG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/160855-new-cv-35-12-on-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1790619'>More sharing options...
ezc203 Posted September 11, 2011 Share #31 Posted September 11, 2011 I agree! I had the Voigtlander 35mm f/1.4 for the longest time, but ended up trading it in for 2 reasons. 1) focus-shift at f/1.4 for that particular copy was a b**** and 2) the bokeh were not to my liking. Again, this photo demonstrates my concern. The near-ground bokeh (posters, photos on the wall) are lovely, but the far-ground bokeh (lights, glasses, reflections) are kind of distracting? Maybe I'm just trying to find bones in an egg (Chinese saying for trying to start trouble..... haha) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share #32 Posted September 11, 2011 i had another run wiht this lens- same fairground- worse weather = better light- this time I really concentrated to get the focus right... still managed to miss most shots... The lens was handy to use fast shutter speeds in low light with half decent ISO- and I think I got some better shots than on the first run... not at all sure what other will think of tthe images... Very hard to focus with fast moving subjects and a very narrow DOF and then to recompose. I only shot wide open at 1.2: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/160855-new-cv-35-12-on-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1790634'>More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted September 11, 2011 Share #33 Posted September 11, 2011 An excellent series, Jaques, thx for sharing. You made good use of your new lens. Best regards GEORG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted September 11, 2011 Share #34 Posted September 11, 2011 For comparison purposes: here is a "bokeh-shot" with the 1.1/ 50 mm NOKTON, pretty busy, but not uninteresting. Sorry, no side by side photograph, I´am working on these ... Best GEORG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/160855-new-cv-35-12-on-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1790714'>More sharing options...
jaques Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share #35 Posted September 13, 2011 I think when you focus a lens like this at close distances- with highlights in the background- things are going to get 'noisy' no matter what. It seems to me to be more related to the wide aperture rather than a particular lens. Here are side by side comparisons of the Noctilux f1 and the new CV 35 1.2 Nokton- both wide open (and I know- there is no scientific ethos here- just a rudimentary comparison- done for no real reason:rolleyes:). Focus was on the little grass seed- first two are CV then the Noctilux- then one more gratuitous show sot from the Voigtlander at 1.2: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/160855-new-cv-35-12-on-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1791972'>More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted September 13, 2011 Share #36 Posted September 13, 2011 >> Thumbs UP << for these shots, Jaques ! Thx for posting these comparisons. I really like the NOCTILUX- results, but the NOKTON is doing a good job as well. The big problem is, once you started with these lighteaters, you want more of them ... Best GEORG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/160855-new-cv-35-12-on-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1792037'>More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted September 19, 2011 Share #37 Posted September 19, 2011 Hi guys, could please anybody comment on this new version's resistance to flare? That used to be an issue with the ver.I of the Nokton 35 f/1.2. I'd like to see some shots against the sun, or with spotlight in the FOV. thanks in advance, Maurizio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share #38 Posted September 20, 2011 haven't tried the lens in the sun much- but does this shot (wide open) show what you want- it is untouched straight out of the camera RAW- you can see the purple fringing on the flood lights- comes up OK with a little PP: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/160855-new-cv-35-12-on-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1797256'>More sharing options...
jaques Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share #39 Posted September 20, 2011 here is a detail- but come to think of it- is this the type of flare you were after? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/160855-new-cv-35-12-on-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1797258'>More sharing options...
billib Posted September 20, 2011 Share #40 Posted September 20, 2011 The Hood arrived today. Its not as big as I thought it would be. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/160855-new-cv-35-12-on-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1797296'>More sharing options...
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