andybarton Posted July 25, 2011 Share #21 Posted July 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) This one was taken with the Rollei film. I know that Carl Bretteville has used this too - more than I have. Three Musketeers I must get some more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andybarton Posted July 25, 2011 Share #22 Posted July 25, 2011 This one was taken with the Rollei film. I know that Carl Bretteville has used this too - more than I have. Three Musketeers I must get some more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesop Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share #23 Posted July 25, 2011 This one was taken with the Rollei film. I know that Carl Bretteville has used this too - more than I have. Three Musketeers I must get some more. ...great detail here, Andy - any examples of indoor or pseudo-low-light shots? I know 32 ISO is way out there, but that's where the M's strengths kick in. IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesop Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share #24 Posted July 25, 2011 This one was taken with the Rollei film. I know that Carl Bretteville has used this too - more than I have. Three Musketeers I must get some more. ...great detail here, Andy - any examples of indoor or pseudo-low-light shots? I know 32 ISO is way out there, but that's where the M's strengths kick in. IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maurometallo Posted July 25, 2011 Share #25 Posted July 25, 2011 ...thanks, Mauro - could you please expand on "lovely"? It allowed me to shoot wide open with graet ease... However, I found it not to be quite grainless as said, although I was still pleased with the results. Here are a couple of examples: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/157811-any-pan-f-users-out-there/?do=findComment&comment=1745404'>More sharing options...
maurometallo Posted July 25, 2011 Share #26 Posted July 25, 2011 ...thanks, Mauro - could you please expand on "lovely"? It allowed me to shoot wide open with graet ease... However, I found it not to be quite grainless as said, although I was still pleased with the results. Here are a couple of examples: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeplanter Posted July 25, 2011 Share #27 Posted July 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Pan-F will work, but you may want to look at Efke 25. This is a fine grain B&W film with "unique" tones. I develop mine in Rodinal and am always impressed with the results. It is a bit contrastry in direct sunlight, but I handle that by overexposing a stop and pulling back development by 20%. In shade, I just process normally. Efke 25 is now my standard low ASA film. Jim B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeplanter Posted July 25, 2011 Share #28 Posted July 25, 2011 Pan-F will work, but you may want to look at Efke 25. This is a fine grain B&W film with "unique" tones. I develop mine in Rodinal and am always impressed with the results. It is a bit contrastry in direct sunlight, but I handle that by overexposing a stop and pulling back development by 20%. In shade, I just process normally. Efke 25 is now my standard low ASA film. Jim B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Lord Posted July 25, 2011 Share #29 Posted July 25, 2011 PAN F 50 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/157811-any-pan-f-users-out-there/?do=findComment&comment=1745456'>More sharing options...
Adrian Lord Posted July 25, 2011 Share #30 Posted July 25, 2011 PAN F 50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 25, 2011 Share #31 Posted July 25, 2011 ...great detail here, Andy - any examples of indoor or pseudo-low-light shots? I know 32 ISO is way out there, but that's where the M's strengths kick in. IMO. No. Using 32 ISO indoors is pushing it a bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 25, 2011 Share #32 Posted July 25, 2011 ...great detail here, Andy - any examples of indoor or pseudo-low-light shots? I know 32 ISO is way out there, but that's where the M's strengths kick in. IMO. No. Using 32 ISO indoors is pushing it a bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 25, 2011 Share #33 Posted July 25, 2011 Here's a link to a Rollei ATP thread I started a couple of years ago. Grain, what grain? http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/film-forum/85887-rollei-atp.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 25, 2011 Share #34 Posted July 25, 2011 Here's a link to a Rollei ATP thread I started a couple of years ago. Grain, what grain? http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/film-forum/85887-rollei-atp.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted July 25, 2011 Share #35 Posted July 25, 2011 This one was taken with the Rollei film. I know that Carl Bretteville has used this too - more than I have. I have shot a few rolls wih ATP 1.1, I have about 10 rolls left and doubt I will ever use it for anything. The tonality is fantastic and the grain is not there, but I find it increadibly hard to develop. I get dark spots in blue skies and there is a sheen on the developed film that I have tried to remove using my fingers. In addition this is the only film that gives me drying stains despite using deionized water and Tetenal Mirasol in the final rinse. I even bought a Paterson plastic tank specially for use with ATP as I thought my steel tank and reels were the source of the dark spots (read Rollei's doc). Sad but true. I still have TechPan left so that is what I'll be using when needing a slow, fine grain emulsion. That said I'm going to try Adox's CMS20 having bought a test-kit from Fotoimpex. Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted July 25, 2011 Share #36 Posted July 25, 2011 This one was taken with the Rollei film. I know that Carl Bretteville has used this too - more than I have. I have shot a few rolls wih ATP 1.1, I have about 10 rolls left and doubt I will ever use it for anything. The tonality is fantastic and the grain is not there, but I find it increadibly hard to develop. I get dark spots in blue skies and there is a sheen on the developed film that I have tried to remove using my fingers. In addition this is the only film that gives me drying stains despite using deionized water and Tetenal Mirasol in the final rinse. I even bought a Paterson plastic tank specially for use with ATP as I thought my steel tank and reels were the source of the dark spots (read Rollei's doc). Sad but true. I still have TechPan left so that is what I'll be using when needing a slow, fine grain emulsion. That said I'm going to try Adox's CMS20 having bought a test-kit from Fotoimpex. Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christer Posted July 25, 2011 Share #37 Posted July 25, 2011 ...thanks, christer - I am looking for "image quality, fine detail and lack of grain". At least that is what it said on the Ilford literature that initially piqued my interest in Pan F+. What speed do you normally rate your TMY at? 800 I just last week used my Canon EOS3 to do some film speed testing because with that camera bracketing is so easy. I bracketed around 800 and my conclusion was that the quality of 800 prints does not differ that much from the 400 prints, except that some shadow detail may be lost. I also shot zones 1-9 using a grey card and measured the densities with a RH Design "Analyser". When exposing at 800, then zone 1 is almost blank, but on a print this is often irrelevant. I tested TMX at the same time. The result is similar if you insert 200/100 instead of 800/400. With regards to the TMY/TMX difference in grain, the difference in grain size and structure is there when a loupe is used to look at approx. 14x enlargements. Without a loupe, the difference becomes more or less a matter of taste. BTW, I used Xtol 1+1 for the test Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 26, 2011 Share #38 Posted July 26, 2011 Pan F in Ilfotec DD-X was my primary B&W film from about 2000 until I quit using film regularly. I still wind a roll of PanF 120 now and then. Main reason - I found the tonality to be better for scanning than TMax 100. TMax was probably less grainy and sharper, but always had a metallic "stiffness" to the highlights, which Pan F handled better, especially exposed at EI 80. Pan F does have the finest grain of the current "old tech" films - absent the microfilms (which to my eye have the same problems as TMax). Here's one shot that perfectly shows the "endless" white-on-whites Pan F could capture: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/157811-any-pan-f-users-out-there/?do=findComment&comment=1747244'>More sharing options...
Guest Randle P. McMurphy Posted July 26, 2011 Share #39 Posted July 26, 2011 Would particularly like to hear from hand-held clickers and experienced home processors. Didnt work with Ilford since Fuji started their Neopan films. Neopan 400 was much better than HP5 oder HP5+. For best resolution I used APX 25 as long as avaiable and then tried T-MAX 100 as long as Fuji released the best film ever = Across 100. It´s a deam - and easy to handle even if you want to process it on your own or give it away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiZZ Posted July 26, 2011 Share #40 Posted July 26, 2011 I used it with Ilfosol. 6 minutes. Clean tones. Grain-free. Don't have any scans unfortunately. I shot in daylight, so I had no problems. Generally aperture was about 5.6-11 with shutter between 500-125. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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