Guest stanjan0 Posted July 31, 2011 Share #41 Posted July 31, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Steve, thank you. [/quo:)te] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Hi Guest stanjan0, Take a look here My Love Letter To The 0.95 Noctilux. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
kubacichocki Posted July 31, 2011 Share #42 Posted July 31, 2011 What is wrong with that picture ? http://johnbuckley100.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/cowgirl2.jpg Why the trees are more 'blurred' than landscape behind them ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindolfi Posted August 1, 2011 Share #43 Posted August 1, 2011 What is wrong with that picture ? http://johnbuckley100.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/cowgirl2.jpg Why the trees are more 'blurred' than landscape behind them ? There is difference in blurring in the background depending on the position in the frame: the parts near the edge look sharper because the effective aperture is smaller in one direction: the aperture opening becomes obscured by edges of front and back of the lens barrel. In this picture (click) you can see that effect from the shapes of the bokeh disks in the background: more elongated near the edge and the corners. Pick up a fast lens at full opening and look through it while turning the lens slowly around a vertical axis. You will see the aperture change in shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted August 1, 2011 Share #44 Posted August 1, 2011 I was quite tempted by the 50/1 Noct for sale in the Classifieds. I thought trying the previous version could but worth it while waiting for my name to come to the top of the list for the 0.95 version. Sadly, the vendor is not responding. Strange. Perhaps the lens has sold already. Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted August 1, 2011 Share #45 Posted August 1, 2011 I have the .95 Nocti for about 5 months and I tried it out in very dimly lit restaurants and other low light places and I had very little success in focusing it properly, I am 79 years old but still have 20-30 eyesight. After reading all of the proceeding posts I was simply amazed that the Nocti had a place in shooting in daylight, simply amazed. I must obtain some proper filters so I can do likewise, please post recommendations here or by PM. You know I was contemplating selling my Nocti, till I read these posts thank you guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 1, 2011 Share #46 Posted August 1, 2011 Mrs. Summer from Heliopan in München might be someone you want to talk errr... mail to. Or her husband, Mr. Summer, who is an engineer and the boss . Their family business closes for holiday on the 5th of August (I found out today, asking for a different article). They make excellent filters and I'm glad to be their customer for years now. I have a plan, that I want to put into practice for my Leica R-macro 100mm lens, that I use on my Canon 5DII. That lens has the same filter diameter as the 0.95 Noctilux: 60mm. I remember Hasselblad had in the analog days the filter diameter 60mm bayonet. Right, it was 50mm bayonet filter diameter for 80-250mm lenses before. But then the lenses looked differently and from the 1:4.0/50mm Distagon to 250 Sonnar, they all had the 60mm bayonet diameter. What I never liked about filters in general (except on old Hassis ), was the screw mount, that is the reason it takes so long to attach and remove the filter from the lens. Now, couldn't there be a intermediate ring from Heliopan, that allows 60mm filters with an old Hasselblad bayonet to be attached to the 60mm screw-in attachment of this Leica lens? This adaptor I'd leave on the lens at all times, and simply change the bayonet filters much easier and faster. Without this feature, they probably have 60mm (regular screw-in) ND filters of different factors in stock. So do the major dealers in the US, too. Made by Hoya, B + W, Heliopan and others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 2, 2011 Share #47 Posted August 2, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) ?Pick up a fast lens at full opening and look through it while turning the lens slowly around a vertical axis? Sorry, by the rest of the explanation a bit, too. But thank you for the explanation (attempt), Lindolfi! You being the only one to give it a try. _______________________ Regarding ND filters: dpreview.com 1st of August entry. Good thing no ND filter here yet In the analog days many of those for color balance on slide film. Let's see if we can be made to spend on filters again, before the next cams have a built-in variable ND, like the Fuji (which I do not prefer over my back-up small, black X1). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindolfi Posted August 2, 2011 Share #48 Posted August 2, 2011 Thanks tri for your attempt to inderstand what I wrote. Let me help you further 1) pick up a fast lens and set the lens to maximum aperture (for instance f/ 0.95) 2) hold the lens in front of you and look through it from the front of the lens at a white wall for instance 3) you will see a white round opening 4) now turn the lens slightly sideways (around a vertical axis) without moving your head 5) you will see the round opening change to an almond shaped opening with its longest axis in vertical direction, shortest axis in horizontal direction 6) the same shape is the opening for the light rays entering to the side of your sensor or film surface, giving a similar shape of the image of an out of focus highlight Here are pictures of the situations I described in points 2) and 4): Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 2, 2011 Share #49 Posted August 2, 2011 You can't find it in science books, but in German colloquial: "der Aha-Effekt" Tried it and it works with a 1.4 lens, too. If I could spare 10k$, I'd gladly spend them to do the same experiment with a new Noctilux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_R Posted August 2, 2011 Share #50 Posted August 2, 2011 For portraits, the Nocti 1.0 is my favourite, I prefer it to the 90 Cron AA. Bokeh depends on background contrast and is not always pleasing, but the sharp-in-soft drawing ist very nice, IMO. One of my daughter, 1/60 sec f:1 ISO 320 Another one My mother on her 80th birthday The Nocti is not often used for landscape, but you can do nice bokeh-panoramics, makes for kind of MF-sensor look (six shots stitched as mosaic): Carsten Flickr Carsten Ranke Photography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted August 2, 2011 Share #51 Posted August 2, 2011 C_R, the color image of your beautiful daughter I like the best and can not understand so many shooters falling in love with B&W. Yes this is 2011 and its time to think color before you B&W guys kill me ,yes there is a place for B&W. If I may say this, after reading several posts here about shooting with the .95 Nocti in daylight I today tried it out but, without a filter and I was shocked at the results. I will post them here when i get them out of my camera. Let me say this again, I was flabbergasted at the results. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted August 3, 2011 Share #52 Posted August 3, 2011 Captured today while I was waiting for my hair cut. Image captured with Leica M9, Nocti f/.95 at f/4.8, 1/350, ISO 1000. I never would have thought of using a Nocti for taking pictures in broad daylight till I read about it here, thanks guys. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/157518-my-love-letter-to-the-095-noctilux/?do=findComment&comment=1754860'>More sharing options...
C_R Posted August 3, 2011 Share #53 Posted August 3, 2011 stanjan, thank you :-) Nice example with mixed light, good idea to stop down a bit here. I shoot also a lot in broad daylight, with a Rodenstock ND filter Carsten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted August 3, 2011 Share #54 Posted August 3, 2011 Carsten, nice looking family, nice images. Please PM me re: filters. After the barber shop we went to buy a roast duck and some crispy pork (hanging at the left) at a local Chinese B-B-Q store, captured right out of the camera f/5.7, 1/90, ISO1000. My duck dinner was delicious. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/157518-my-love-letter-to-the-095-noctilux/?do=findComment&comment=1755480'>More sharing options...
photoart Posted August 5, 2011 Share #55 Posted August 5, 2011 Wonderfull portrait images here! Thank you for showing I like to know how long is the waiting time for the noctilux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted August 5, 2011 Share #56 Posted August 5, 2011 Photoart, I ordered my Noctilux and 4 other Leica lens and about 6 weeks later I received them all except the new 35MM f/1.4 that came several weeks later. I know your frustration as I have been waiting for the Leica 90MM f/2 for sometime now. My dealer told me he has no idea when its to be delivered. It kind of upsets me that Leica can come up with that new fangled M9 with out the logo but, can't produce enough lens. Leica produces the worlds best camera's and len's but, their public relations don't live up to their reputation of excellence. I hope I didn't step on too many toes by telling my feelings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted August 5, 2011 Share #57 Posted August 5, 2011 Stan, It's part of the price we pay to use Leica gear. I've been lucky and haven't had to wait too long for the few items I've purchased brand new. Leica is a relatively small company and most of us know, this is part of the deal when you buy into Leica, big bucks, and patience waiting if it's hot off the press. I suspect when you pay this kind of money you might expect instant results but not with Leica. Leica in a sense teaches us a bit of humility :-). You have a fantastic arsenal, please post pictures in the photo sections. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted August 5, 2011 Share #58 Posted August 5, 2011 Wilfredo, I am quite aware of Leica's size and manufacturing capabilities, what steam's me is that they are wasting time and effort on items like the M9-P if I got that right instead of producing more lens. Yes I have patience and understanding but, I strongly feel that Leica isn't doing its best to satisfy its basic customer needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubacichocki Posted August 6, 2011 Share #59 Posted August 6, 2011 There is difference in blurring in the background depending on the position in the frame: the parts near the edge look sharper because the effective aperture is smaller in one direction: the aperture opening becomes obscured by edges of front and back of the lens barrel. In this picture (click) you can see that effect from the shapes of the bokeh disks in the background: more elongated near the edge and the corners. Pick up a fast lens at full opening and look through it while turning the lens slowly around a vertical axis. You will see the aperture change in shape. Maybe you're right, but I still think it's something wrong with that lens. There is too much difference between blurred bokeh in the center and "sharper" bokeh in the corner. Look at these pictures: All sizes | Where's the fish? | Flickr - Photo Sharing! All sizes | Night Out | Flickr - Photo Sharing! All sizes | Justin 4 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! http://johnbuckley100.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/beauty.jpg http://johnbuckley100.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/cayden1.jpg I can't see that kind of phenomenon in previous f/1 version. Here's two of my pictures: http://www.kubacichocki.pl/11/nocti2.jpg http://www.kubacichocki.pl/11/nocti3.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindolfi Posted August 6, 2011 Share #60 Posted August 6, 2011 The principle I indicated of an image in the out of focus area near the corners getting sharper because of becoming more narrow of the effective aperture is correct, no doubt. The examples you show indeed indicate that the 50/0.95 shows a stonger effect than the 50/1.0. This is possible when the effective aperture becomes more narrow in the 50/0.95 and that can be due to the design difference with the 50/1.0. It would mean that the barrel of the 50/0.95 obscures more of the round aperture than that of the 50/1.0 in oblique light rays. Part of this effect can easily be explained by the fact that f/0.95 is a larger opening than f1.0 at 50mm focal length and so there is more to obscure. If this is true can easily be established by photographing a matrix of small lights out of focus with both lenses at equal camera positions, aperture and distance settings. After comparing at equal aperture, also full aperture can be compared. Anyone able to do a direct comparison? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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