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After Two Years Of M9 Reliability, A Frustrating Evening


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I've never had to remove the battery to reset either my M8 or M9.

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Regards, Tom

 

Good for you, I've had to do it 3 times in 10 months. Two of those times I lost images.

I agree it's not what I would expect as a functioning camera.

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Since I have had my M8 (maybe the M9 firmware is different) I have once had to remove the battery & reinsert to "reboot" the system. So that was 1 frame lost out of 17.000 or so.

 

Standard procedure for me is:

1 format the SDHC (or SD) card in the camera first time round.

2 Forget the format function altogether (for that card).

3 Copy files from card(s) to PC using cut/paste (cntrl-x, cntrl-v) & HAMA cardreader.

 

Result of this robust procedure: card is empty and ready to use again.

 

IMHO it is an urban myth that you need to reformat each time you reinsert the card. I never reformat my memory sticks & SD(HC) is not vastly different. The SDHC cards seem to be slightly better than the SD cards, could have been been age I guess but anyway I dumped them.

 

Admittedly I have never ventured above 4GB SDHC cards. Taking 380 or so images is enough for me as that roughly coincides with when a battery change is due (although with "LCD off" most of the time about 500 pictures per charge is the norm).

 

Also I am happy enough deleting incidental failures & test shots in camera - that is what the delete button is for. Just avoid pressing "delete all files" unless that is intended.

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3 Copy files from card(s) to PC using cut/paste (cntrl-x, cntrl-v) & HAMA cardreader.

 

Result of this robust procedure: card is empty and ready to use again.

 

I'm not criticising your work flow, if you're happy with it then knock yourself out.

However, cutting and pasting from card to workstation would not, in any photographic establishment in the world, be considered "robust"!

 

Mostly people copy from card to workstation and during this take a parallel back up to an external source. Then the files will be backed up from the primary workstation and usually (depending on your required redundancy level) only deleted from the card once you have three separate copies elsewhere.

 

There's a difference if you're being paid for the images, and indeed if the images are of importance in a non monetary sense. But even shooting my family is precious enough, to me, to warrant at least one level of redundancy - which your method does not have.

 

Again, not a criticism of you personally. But we should at least provide the "watch out everyone else" caveats when publicly descirbing a risky workflow! =)

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OK, OK I do backup the DNG to an external RAID drive about once a month, and I immediately copy the files to my second hard drive. So I have 4 copies of the 4files spread around after some time.

 

However "cut/paste" keeps the files at the original source drive until the checksums etc. are verified. You can switch of the mains during a "cut/paste" operation with no risk of losing data (this has happened to me inadvertently, when another part of the system crashed everything & started a reboot).

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You can get lucky - I don't know in how far Leica has harmonized those cameras electronically. An M8 card without formatting put my DMR in coma, it could only be revived in Solms.

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Maybe this is irrelevant - but I'd be interested to know if there's any difference between the experience of Windows, Mac and other OS users (eg Linux). I use PC and have had none of these problems. How about others?

 

 

Chris,

 

Many thanks. Maybe you are onto something. I just don't know.

I wonder whether this would interest you?

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/192294-m9-mac-memory-card-formatting-differences.html

 

Best, K-H.

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