framestore Posted June 20, 2011 Share #1 Posted June 20, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi,I recently purchased M8u and new leica glasses. I've previously used Canon,Nikon camera systems. Now I want to purchase a backup RF body in a budget and considering x100 or another M8u(or M8.2u). Please share your opinions what do you think of this combinations?or other suggestions? consideration; x100, M8u, M8.2u or EPL1(or2) --------------------------- Best regards, Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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maccaco Posted June 20, 2011 Share #2 Posted June 20, 2011 My opinion?... M8, no doubt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 20, 2011 Share #3 Posted June 20, 2011 There are no M8.2u cameras, so you are stuck with an M8.2, I'm afraid. The X100 isn't a rangefinder, so my advice would be to find a good used M8 with which to back up and use the lenses that you have already purchased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmolinski Posted June 20, 2011 Share #4 Posted June 20, 2011 I agree with Andy. Second M8 used is the better choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBatemanJ Posted June 20, 2011 Share #5 Posted June 20, 2011 For backup, same body is the best, M8s. SATOKI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted June 20, 2011 Share #6 Posted June 20, 2011 I guess it depends what the 'back up' is for. Have you always bought back-up bodies? If you're a serious enthusiast who is occasionally commissioned; the M8... no question - as you'd be able to run a wide lens on one body and a short tele on the other (for speedy access to each format) with no difference in the files produced. If you never do paid for work, perhaps a fixed lens pocket camera might be a better investment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
usayit Posted June 20, 2011 Share #7 Posted June 20, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Its the same reason why I sold the epson rd1 even though I liked it as a backup, I prefer like or same cameras paired together to - avoid separate chargers - avoid separate batteries - use the same lenses - same or similar operation. - avoid the continuous mental context switching when changing cameras. - same workflow post Get the m8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 21, 2011 Share #8 Posted June 21, 2011 As others suggest, depends on what you want from your back-up. I have 2 M8.2s, in part to have a spare if one goes down, but more because I often shoot with both cameras....usually 28 lens on one, 50 on the other. This saves changing lenses and speeds up my shooting process. Cameras are the same (except for one chrome, one black), so transitioning is seamless. I got a great price on the second body (mint used), after buying the first new. You can find M8.2s for not too much more than a M8u, and more cheaply than buying an M8 and doing all the upgrades. (Note that an M8 can be upgraded in 3 ways, or combinations thereof...shutter, frame lines and LCD. The M8.2 has all these, plus some other differences.) Of course, if the upgrades don't matter, then a basic M8 can be just fine. Your photos won't improve except if the different frame lines matter to you, or if you need 1/8000 shutter speed, which is limited to 1/4000 on the M8.2 or M8 with shutter upgrade. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
framestore Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share #9 Posted June 21, 2011 There are no M8.2u cameras, so you are stuck with an M8.2, I'm afraid. The X100 isn't a rangefinder, so my advice would be to find a good used M8 with which to back up and use the lenses that you have already purchased. M8.2u meant to be M8.2 used. I've heard good stories from many M8 owners who use x100 as a backup body. Thanks for you all comments. ________________ Regards, Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhanebeck Posted June 21, 2011 Share #10 Posted June 21, 2011 Here is one out of left field ... : ) I purchased a M7 as a backup to my M8 and love it. Found myself taking it out as much as its digital companion. The images are different, of course, but that's the beauty of it. I now often take both cameras with me. You shoot differently with the M7 and take far fewer images, but I tend to keep 75% of the analog ones and, on a good day, maybe 50% of the digital ones. One unexpected benefit was that I really enjoy the slower process e.g. you wait until you have a couple of rolls together, then you wait for the lab and then process (scanning about one roll per night for me) slower as well. You can't beat the anticipation that using film gives you. I know of a guy who shoots film for a year and then sends in hundreds of rolls for processing. He loves the fact that he is hugely surprised by great images he has long forgotten. Now, that would not work with my patience, but I admire his approach none-the-less. Cheers, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
due163 Posted June 21, 2011 Share #11 Posted June 21, 2011 Instead of an X100 you get a small 4/3 body and a M > 4/3 lens adapter ( is the sony NEX 4/3?) just a thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thondup Posted June 21, 2011 Share #12 Posted June 21, 2011 Have a M7 with two lens 35 1.4 and 75 1.4 have recently purchased a Panasonic GH2 with an adapter great back up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big T Posted June 21, 2011 Share #13 Posted June 21, 2011 I have an M8.2 and a X100 and love them both. M8.2 = I use when I'm going out to specifically shoot. X100 = Carry it with me at all other times. Both cams are fantastic cams and each serves their purpose extremely well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lss- Posted June 21, 2011 Share #14 Posted June 21, 2011 Now I want to purchase a backup RF body in a budget and considering x100 or another M8u(or M8.2u). Please share your opinions what do you think of this combinations?or other suggestions? Congrats on the new camera! The question really is what you want to do with the backup? If you use two cameras, there are in my opinion two good approaches: the first is to use two of the same (or similar) which makes it easier for you to plan lens choices and to use them in the field; the second option is to complement one camera with the other, e.g., using one rangefinder camera and one SLR. If you generally carry two but use just one camera, the second camera really is a backup. In that case, the best option is probably having two of the same (one perhaps with lower specs/price, such as M9 and M8) or having something really robust that "stores well", like a (manual) film body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted June 21, 2011 Share #15 Posted June 21, 2011 Stay clear of a µ4/3 body as a backup, if you want a quick, similar shooting experience with the first camera! I bought a GH2 in part, to find out, what the buzz is all about, to extend my 135mm focal length and to have a light and cheap (ish) backup camera. It all but handles quick, compared to any Leica RF. It is a completely different experience (with some benefits: light body, easy, to throw into the bag as well, articulated screen for those awkward new angles, and some bad spots: battery life + no backup batteries available, slow handling, focussing, EVF gain changes are really confusing, external controls, different post processing, …). Get a film body, if you see yourself remotely interested in film or get a M8/ M8.2 depending on budget (don't fret the 1/8000, it is a non issue for many, myself included). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBatemanJ Posted June 21, 2011 Share #16 Posted June 21, 2011 I think backup camera and complementary camera are different. Backup camera need to be pretty much the same as main camera. My main cameras are M8+50mm and M9+35mm and they can be backup camera as well. Complementary cameras are 5D2 and X100 (and sometimes DP1). I sometimes use 5D2+28mm or DP1 when I need wider lens. 5D2 is used paid work, too. They are not decided by spec, but by actual shooting experiences. SATOKI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
framestore Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share #17 Posted June 21, 2011 Thanks for you all replies and sharing your thoughts. _________________________ Regards, Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 21, 2011 Share #18 Posted June 21, 2011 M8.2u meant to be M8.2 used. Just curious, when you said initially that you had an M8u, did you mean upgraded or used? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
framestore Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share #19 Posted June 21, 2011 Just curious, when you said initially that you had an M8u, did you mean upgraded or used? Jeff I bought an used M8, sorry for the confusion. I'm thinking soon to get shutter noisy done. At the moment the costs of 800 pounds is somewhat very expensive in my personal view and rather I want to spend money in Leica new / old glasses. Regards, Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 21, 2011 Share #20 Posted June 21, 2011 No problem, Joe. Just so you know, M8u is assumed here to mean upgraded. Given that you seem to get on fine with a stock M8, all the more reason IMO to find another at a fair price for your back-up. Forget about the upgrades and put the money into the best camera. You will also likely lose less on any eventual sale by sticking with the M. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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