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Sorry - but this is not a "new" film camera.

 

It is a stock MP with some M3-like cosmetic bling added, in a total worldwide production run of 20.

 

When Leica put out a commemorative 70th anniversary M4-P, no one called it a "new" camera (even though there were 125 times as many of those made as the M3-P). It was still an M4-P, with some special engraving. Leica M4-P 70th Anniversary

 

"New" applied to the M6 with significant operational differences (a meter). Or the M7 - electronic shutter and auto-exposure.

 

Come back when there is an M7.2, with, say, a 1/2000th or 1/4000th sec. shutter; or anything else that shows the R&D department is actually putting effort into technological development of production film cameras - as opposed to the "Hermès" department.

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Sorry - but this is not a "new" film camera.

 

It is a stock MP with some M3-like cosmetic bling added, in a total worldwide production run of 20.

 

Yes and the M9 was a M8 with a larger sensor so apart from the M9 on front no visible difference, well it was missing a small LCD somewhere?

 

The MP was only a M6 classic with brass top plate, well it has one way clutch on rewind knob, and a few other differences.

 

The only new M was the M3, meter, AE and dig back all bling...

 

Noel

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You guys are funny,

 

Marcus , thanks for taking the time to ask about me.

 

I am doing good.

 

 

http://rogaltacdesign.smugmug.com/Other/new-work/i-3drThs5/0/L/GregoryRogalskyNikonD3146336JP-L.jpg

 

 

 

 

Your about the Lecia M8/M9 images not being as good as Lecia film. However, I have a back log of over two hundred rolls of film just sitting there, some are processed and some are still latent. So , it's nice to get to see some results now and again.

 

 

 

I still have a couple of Leica Fim bodies seeing the light of the sun from time to time. I just got to be realistic that that are only so many hours in the day and as it is my film work is not getting the attention it deserves.

 

That being said I will still keep banging away shooting film and my Leica M3 is working like a charm.

 

I picked up a 135 2.8 Elmarit and on the M3 it's fantastic.

 

 

 

 

Gregory

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Noel, I don't know. Maybe we are saying the same thing from different directions.

 

Visible differences without operational differences = cosmetics = NOT a new camera.

 

Operational differences, with or without visible differences = functional changes = NEW camera.

 

Put green ostrich skin on an M6 and it remains an M6, not a new camera.

 

Put bumps around the viewfinder windows on an MP and it remains an MP, not a new camera.

 

OTOH - try to change film in a fast-moving situation in something less than than a geological eon with an M2 or an M3 - and one quickly sees that the M4 et seq. were obviously "new" Leica Ms from the point of view of functionality.

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Sorry - but this is not a "new" film camera.

 

Come back when there is an M7.2, with, say, a 1/2000th or 1/4000th sec. shutter; or anything else that shows the R&D department is actually putting effort into technological development of production film cameras - as opposed to the "Hermès" department.

 

Leica are marketing the M9P as a new camera. Where's the technological advance in that? So yes, it is a new film camera.

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On the whole, I don't consider the M9P to be a "new" camera either - the relationship between marketing and truth being about the same as the relationship between a fish and a bicycle (none to speak of). ;)

 

It is a cosmetic variation on the M9.

 

Although I would point out that the M9P is a production camera - as in, Leica will be making them in volume to meet demand and not to a fixed "edition" limit (except for the "20-Jahre" Nocti kits) - Leica may make 5,000 or 10,000 or more M9Ps before the M10 shows up.

 

I will grant the M3-P one point on functionality over a plain MP, though - it may be the only way to get a Nocti f/0.95 this year for film camera use. ;)

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You guys are funny,

 

Marcus , thanks for taking the time to ask about me.

 

I am doing good.

 

 

http://rogaltacdesign.smugmug.com/Other/new-work/i-3drThs5/0/L/GregoryRogalskyNikonD3146336JP-L.jpg

 

Gregory

 

Excellent - and thanks for the link, the kind of picture that makes me want to get back out there and shoot!

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Sorry - but this is not a "new" film camera.

 

It is a stock MP with some M3-like cosmetic bling added, in a total worldwide production run of 20.

 

When Leica put out a commemorative 70th anniversary M4-P, no one called it a "new" camera (even though there were 125 times as many of those made as the M3-P). It was still an M4-P, with some special engraving. Leica M4-P 70th Anniversary

 

"New" applied to the M6 with significant operational differences (a meter). Or the M7 - electronic shutter and auto-exposure.

 

Come back when there is an M7.2, with, say, a 1/2000th or 1/4000th sec. shutter; or anything else that shows the R&D department is actually putting effort into technological development of production film cameras - as opposed to the "Hermès" department.

 

It is still a thing of beauty nonetheless - even if the chrome Noctilux 0.95 does look a bit rotund.

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Sorry to say but doesn't the Nocti f0.95 cover the range finder patch a little? And the price? It makes the old Nocti f1.0 look compact and a bargin compared. Or is the new Nocti also full of ASPH elements to give superb IQ from f1 onwards?

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Sorry to say but doesn't the Nocti f0.95 cover the range finder patch a little? And the price? It makes the old Nocti f1.0 look compact and a bargin compared. Or is the new Nocti also full of ASPH elements to give superb IQ from f1 onwards?

 

No, it doesn't intrude on the focussing patch. The newer Noctilux does provide sharper and more corrected image quality at F1 though there is still a surprising (and IMO a slightly problematic) amount of glow. The other surprising thing about the F0.95 Noctilux is that you don't get as much background and foreground blur as is usually assumed. The 1m focussing limit makes a big difference here (compared with the 0.7m of the Summilux) if blurring out the background/foreground is the principal objective. The corollary to this point is that the Noctilux is not particularly difficult to focus (as is often assumed) - in fact, I think, with the greater focussing throw and the greater size of the lens (which allows the lens to be nicely cradled in the palm), it is easier to focus than the Summilux.

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