Shootist Posted February 2, 2007 Share #21 Â Posted February 2, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not that I hate the bottom plate BUT they at least could of put the catch and latch on the same side as the film camera. Now I have to get use to holding the camera differently to remove it. Â There is a way to make the camera work without the bottom plate in place. There is a little switch near the battery compartment that needs to be depressed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jonoslack Posted February 2, 2007 Share #22 Â Posted February 2, 2007 Hi There Join the band - spent much time in England? I always saw "Praising with faint damn " as an english trait. Â As for the D200 - mine got so dusty I sold it (and all the lenses) I don't miss it a bit (I've got an olympus kit which works well for macro and telephoto). Â Enjoy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted February 2, 2007 Share #23 Â Posted February 2, 2007 Well, that's what makes wine: I happen to like the strap and have bot several to add to other cameras. When I look at the Upstrap, the basic model looks very much like the Leica strap except the the nubbies are on both sides of the rubber part of the strap. Â I find the plate a problem in only one area: reformatting several cards at once. If the camera functioned without the plate, it wouldn't be a problem, but one must put the card in, replace the plate, reformat, remove the plate, put the next card in, etcetera. Â What I wish Leica had done is allow the camera to be powered by the usb port. That way, it wouldn't be necessary to have a bunch of batteries for an extended studio shoot; just use the camera with power supplied to it. I admit that the problem was mostly significant when I had a single battery. Â Marc, welcome to the Forum. It IS a great camera. It's all about the lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted February 2, 2007 Share #24 Â Posted February 2, 2007 No complaints with my M8 yet - particularly having been shown the secrets of WB! Â What might those secrets be? How about sharing them? Â John Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted February 2, 2007 Share #25 Â Posted February 2, 2007 John, C1 is not particularly intuitive to the newcomer. Read (thoroughly) the sticky thread at the top of the Digital pages that was started by Jamie Roberts. It'll help a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flatfour Posted February 2, 2007 Share #26 Â Posted February 2, 2007 The rate at which flash cards are increasing in capacity it won't be long before you will be able to hold 1000 images, so it will hardly ever need to be removed other than for downloading. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chap Posted February 2, 2007 Share #27 Â Posted February 2, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) The plate is a bit of a worry every now and then but an old UP photographer taught me how NOT to drop it in the mud when changing film on my M7. I like the idea that it acts as a protective cover for that vital electronic area of the M8. Â On my D200, there is a convenient pop-up cover for the CF card but the release on the front is always catching on things so I often find myself walking around with my door open (pun). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted February 2, 2007 Share #28 Â Posted February 2, 2007 I actually like the plate too--it's strong and SD cards, well, they look more fragile than CF cards, though I guess they have no pins to bend As Marc said, once 4GB SD cards are in there I won't worry that much (not that I do now). Â I'm also glad the camera doesn't mount as a disc, especially on Win XP where delayed write failures are the norm for peripherals like this. I'd only ever use a dedicated card reader (or two) to get stuff off the cards. Â Issues? Yeah--Bill is completely right about formatting multiple cards. That *is* a major pain with the base plate. The camera not working with it off is just error prone too--it's something to go wrong that shouldn't. So I'd love to see them turn that feature OFF in the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrogers Posted February 2, 2007 Share #29 Â Posted February 2, 2007 Put me in the camp of those who actually like the bottom plate. Well sealed, good feel, reliable, familiar interface for changing "film", funky. And I don't use it often enough to care that it's a bit slower than a door or flap. Â In fact, I expect the time it takes me to change SD card or battery on the M8 is little different from the time it takes me to change the same items on my Canon---most of the time is spent digging in the bag and messing with little cases or covers, and years of Leica film changes make handling the bottom plate second nature. Â Anyway, enjoy your new camera! Â Clyde Rogers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcRochkind Posted February 2, 2007 Author Share #30 Â Posted February 2, 2007 Hans: I originally thought the camera had to go back to fix the spelling error. I've since learned (see above) that it does not. OK, nevermind... this joke didn't work the first time either. ;-) Â Wade: I do use Lightroom, but ImageIngesterPro goes WAY beyond what Lightroom has for ingestion. See ImageIngester.com for details. Â Bradley: The M3 nearby is a loan from my sister, and it arrived only a few weeks ago. Too out of adjustment to actually use. See my post http://www.leica-camera-user.com/film-forum/13122-started-1962-shot-leica-first-time.html#post135965. Â All: I hope my original post made it quite clear that I really like this camera!!! I hope it was apparent that my criticisms were of very minor things (bottom plate, strap, alleged spelling error) and that my praise was of important things (picture quality, ability to focus). Â --Marc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidERuck Posted February 2, 2007 Share #31 Â Posted February 2, 2007 I, too, enjoy having the bottom plate. It Serves as a reminder that I'm working with a Leica and not with another computer with a lens attached. Tradition, I suggest, is a large part of why we revere the tool so. Let's use it well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted February 3, 2007 Share #32 Â Posted February 3, 2007 Well, that's what makes wine: I happen to like the strap and have bot several to add to other cameras. When I look at the Upstrap, the basic model looks very much like the Leica strap except the the nubbies are on both sides of the rubber part of the strap. Â They look similar, but the Upstrap is way stickier. It just stays where you put it, almost no matter what. I once tested it with my 5D and 80 Lux to an angle of perhaps 30 degrees from the vertical, and it still stuck! The Leica strap is okay, but it does slip a bit, and I find myself nudging it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyspedden Posted February 3, 2007 Share #33  Posted February 3, 2007 I agree. When the firmware updates allow 4 gig SDs it'll even be less of an issue. I am really confused. I love my M8 and particularly like using the Transcend 4Gb drive which always works perfectly. If there is a problem I don't see it but I am concerned nontheless. Please provide details about what I should expect when using the 4Gb card!  Thanks Woody Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted February 3, 2007 Share #34 Â Posted February 3, 2007 Woody--if I understand this correctly the M8's current firmware doesn't officially support 4GB cards yet. If yours work, then I think you're ok, and I wouldn't worry overmuch. But I won't buy any 4GB cards myself until they annouce it's supported; there are a bunch of different 4GB flavours of SD card out there (in terms of transfer speed, etc...) so it's a risk using them now. Â At least, this is what I've read. Think I can find the source?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 3, 2007 Share #35 Â Posted February 3, 2007 The M8 supports 4gb cards , i am using them now but what it does NOT support is SDHC cards a different variant of the SD cards so Transcends work and Ridata also and maybe a couple more . I have a SDHC Sandisk and will not work at all. So aviod buying SDHC cards right now the industry is in transition and leica does not support it yet until the transition of technology is settled. This is not a Leica issue but a industry issue. Â The bottom plate i like and even with thegrip. i don't like doors like other camera's Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaubel Posted February 3, 2007 Share #36  Posted February 3, 2007  The bottom plate i like and even with thegrip. i don't like doors like other camera's  With a supported 4gb card and a fresh battery, you're good to go for about 350 shots. That's enough for me all day, even on vacation. Then I always change the battery and the card at the same time, back at the hotel or whatever. The bottom plate is no trouble at all and I hate plastic doors since I am always afraid I will break one off. Plus the bpttom plate is solid brass and has a certain amount of fondle value.  Rex Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 3, 2007 Share #37 Â Posted February 3, 2007 Rex happened tonight for me had a 4gb card in which is about 384 raws i think. i shot 240 people head and shoulder shots for a event and when the card got to about 15 left the battery went also. Changed them both and off and running again Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaubel Posted February 3, 2007 Share #38  Posted February 3, 2007 Rex happened tonight for me had a 4gb card in which is about 384 raws i think. i shot 240 people head and shoulder shots for a event and when the card got to about 15 left the battery went also. Changed them both and off and running again  Ray Thats the key, change them both at the same time whether they need it or not. That way your never confused as to status and are always running. Match your card size to battery is my motto  Rex Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaubel Posted February 3, 2007 Share #39  Posted February 3, 2007 Rex happened tonight for me had a 4gb card in which is about 384 raws i think. i shot 240 people head and shoulder shots for a event and when the card got to about 15 left the battery went also. Changed them both and off and running again  I meant Guy, not Ray  Rex Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 3, 2007 Share #40  Posted February 3, 2007 I meant Guy, not Ray Rex   Been called much worse, trust me. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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