Nikkor AIS Posted April 19, 2011 Share #21 Posted April 19, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I saw these photographers work and to me, there legitimate. Other's might not like there presence or how they work. But I support there right to take pictures in a public place. It's interesting that that news crew took no heat for shooting in the same location without peoples permission. Where is the righteous indignation about the media who is covering celebrities and the famous. Not to mention hard news like murders and car wrecks. "If it bleeds it leads" was an old saying, and for the most part, it's still true. The news crew is clearly making money on the images. And the more outlandish the story the higher the ratings. . And the fact that the reporters already had the story in mind should not be a huge surprise to anyone who has worked with or around the media. It's a beast and it needs to be fed. Once it's in the can, they can cut/edit and make the slant anyway they want, or as I like to say, never let the facts get in the way of a good story. As far as deleting images and paying people who picture I have taken, it's not something I would ever do. And while many one this thread have stated they would grab the photgraphers camera and smash it, that is also something I would not let happen. But that's just me. If you don't like your picture taken, fine stay in your your house and close the doors and keep the blinds shut. And don't go in to any business that rregularly take are picture without consent. And don't go to the airport and ...OO And no one asked what happens to those images. Or who controls them, own them..OO . As far as not photographing childern as subjects for street photography. Exactly what is the problem? I can see if your at pool or something (creepy) but candids on the mall? At a parade, or a rodeo. Did I miss the memo on the rules of street photography? http://rogaltacdesign.smugmug.com/Other/Early-Work/Boy-With-Hand-in-Garbage-on/840215905_Beaqg-XL.jpg http://rogaltacdesign.smugmug.com/Other/Early-Work/Boy-with-Water-Gun-Darker/839334786_kaLep-XL.jpg http://rogaltacdesign.smugmug.com/Other/Early-Work/His-Worship-Mayor-Al-Duerr/840903618_F67cV-XL.jpg http://rogaltacdesign.smugmug.com/Other/Early-Work/Little-Cowboy-with-Teddy-Bear/839399396_xDmon-XL.jpg http://rogaltacdesign.smugmug.com/Other/Early-Work/Little-Girl-with-Cowboy-Hat/839401764_xDeC8-XL.jpg Gregory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Washington Posted April 19, 2011 Share #22 Posted April 19, 2011 I don’t think this really has to do with a photographers right to take photos, it’s this bunch at the same place everyday getting in peoples faces. A discreet photographer rambling about doing his thing with non-invasive action would raise no interest. Obviously, this bunch has caused enough bother to become a news-story and that’s what television news covers. This has to not with being a public nuisance and not street photography or one’s right to pursue such. Honestly, if I worked in the area and had to meet up with them every day it would bug me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted April 20, 2011 Share #23 Posted April 20, 2011 Sorry for the typo I meant to say: this has to do with being a public nuisance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted April 20, 2011 Share #24 Posted April 20, 2011 Yeah, it’s kinda like a street gang. Old men on crack. Film at 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted April 20, 2011 Share #25 Posted April 20, 2011 Yeah, they probably mugged tourists for the cameras they use! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted April 22, 2011 Share #26 Posted April 22, 2011 Hi Jaap, I'm one of the photographers who was in the video. Please read my response (if you haven't done so already) Home - The Photo Recession Seeing is not believing. Thinking critically helps you fill in the blanks that aren't offered to you in a 2 minute hit job. I read through this link and was impressed by the cogent responses. Don't think you or anyone else would look any differently under surveillance. I was shooting with 2 other guys, friends of mine, but each of us do most of our shooting alone. This story is a minor blip, but today it's us... tomorrow it could be you (or anyone else who shoots regularly). Washington, please check out the link provided above for the whole story. I don't want to lecture anyone on how to read a news article or critically break down a news story, but if you can't breakdown a story as biased as this, how do you react to real news? I forget the name of the contributor who was a former newsman. Go back and read his entry. Side note. This has turned out to be the best publicity for the gallery opening to a street photography exhibit I'm featured in... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted April 22, 2011 Share #27 Posted April 22, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Side note. This has turned out to be the best publicity for the gallery opening to a street photography exhibit I'm featured in... That is great. Any publicity is good publicity I guess. Contact Jim Armstrong at WBZ and see if he can do a follow up at the gallery in order to balance out the reporting. They should be ripe for it by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington Posted April 23, 2011 Share #28 Posted April 23, 2011 Joe G….. Hey, it’s great to read your point of view. You are right in saying seeing is not believing and my opinions were only that… opinions as to what my be the deal here based on what I saw …. but, I do not know, do I? I mean, I wasn’t there so, for sure, I don’t KNOW. But, truthfully, is there any merit in my observation that some people complained enough to make it a news issue? Keep going…… good job!!!! cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted April 25, 2011 Share #29 Posted April 25, 2011 Washington, thanks for the response and I really appreciate you going to the website (and for taking it seriously). I have to admit, if it wasn't me in the video, I'd have forgotten about it by now. I'm actually more amazed than anything else. Amazed that this became a story to begin with, but most amazed by all of the blogs and websites and threads, such as this, that have picked it up... Alan, I've invited the TV station to come down to the opening, but I doubt if that'll happen. Thanks guys... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted April 25, 2011 Share #30 Posted April 25, 2011 Washington, thanks for the response and I really appreciate you going to the website (and for taking it seriously). I have to admit, if it wasn't me in the video, I'd have forgotten about it by now. I'm actually more amazed than anything else. Amazed that this became a story to begin with, but most amazed by all of the blogs and websites and threads, such as this, that have picked it up... Alan, I've invited the TV station to come down to the opening, but I doubt if that'll happen. Thanks guys... Joe, nice, things regarding the opening work out good for you despite the tone of news publicity is rather negative. For others, having commented the way the photographers in the news video have worked during the cut version of the coverage, I can only comment one thing. I usually shoot alone, never for a long time on one spot, moving on quickly. There are occasions though, when doing a photo walk together with fellow photographers can be an enjoyable lesson in seeing, how others are doing, which knowledge and experience they can provide and how different persons perspectives on similar or even same subjects turn out differently. I have attended such photo walks and despite my reservations at first have genuinely enjoyed them. I have taken some interesting shots (to me and some of the commenters at least), and have learned about new spots in Shanghai for shooting later on. (Have a look at the Shanghai Photoshoot Group on flickr, to learn more). Judging a person or a group by seeing them act in a few minutes cut scene of a twisted, attention seeking news coverage is beyond narrow minded in my opinion. I am happy about Joe's take on the topic in presenting a post on a website, be it for publicity or not, helping a gallery opening. I find it very important, to educate non informed people about photography and so called "street photography" or candid photography especially. Many people, not involved with photography have indeed a misinformed conception about the topic and the persons behind the lens. The popular news media approach has creating a certain thinking in society about the middle aged man in public with a camera, even shooting women and children or, behold, in awkward positions. This uneven informational status should be clearly evened and people educated about what such photographers are after. I do this openly on the street, when being engaged, while shooting (so far my language skills allow). Especially photographers should know first, that twisting perspective with visual media is easily possible without much work. Judgement from a news media cut? No thanks! Thanks Joe and friends for this "situation" and a clear statement. I think, this can be only good, however it turns out. Shame on the news channel personnel, if not coming up with a statement or word (visiting the gallery and having an open chat would be a great opportunity, although unlikely, to be made I suppose). PS: Welcome to the forum ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Holy Moly Posted April 25, 2011 Share #31 Posted April 25, 2011 Miroslav Tichý | International Center of Photography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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