ho_co Posted March 25, 2011 Share #21 Posted March 25, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) ... Leica Camera uses [the trademark "Leica"] under some kind of license (Am I right?).... I think that is correct. ... (I was told Dr. Kauffmann was negotiating the use of the name "Leitz" for their companies' products, time ago). I heard the same. Was there a problem from the Leitz family? Or from the papers licensing the name "Leica"? Anyone know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rosuna Posted March 25, 2011 Share #22 Posted March 25, 2011 If memory serves me well, the Leitz family precluded from any use of the "Leitz" name to the Leica company when they lose control of the company, years ago. That was (I think) before the company split in three parts. The only way for Leica Camera to get the property of a trade mark related with its heritage is to buy the "Leitz" mark, because "Leica" was in the "Leica Microsystems" company after the splitting. More or less, this is which I remember. I don't know the terms of the brand-use contract with "Leica Microsystems", or what happened with the "Leitz" negotiation of Dr. Kauffmann. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share #23 Posted March 25, 2011 ACM Project Development Company is acm Projektentwicklung GmbH and the ACM stands for Andreas and his two brothers, Christian and Michael. They founded that company in 2002 and started investing in Leica Camera AG stocks after they had sold their remanding stocks in the Kaufmann family business since 1903, Zellstoff Frantschach AG (today Mondi, noted on London Stock Exchange). The Summilux-C lenses were present at Photokina 2008 at the Leica boot, but only as an underhand demo display. I think there has been several ideas throughout the development of them, of who would produce and sell them. I would be surprised if not Leica Camera AG's extensive knowledge about lens design, lens production, and patents on glass types (they have two thousand patents on glass types) were not used in the development. Likewise the original idea with the S2 was to introduce it and sell it via traditional MF dealers (which eventually didn't happen as Leica Camera AG now have their own sales force for this market, built of people who used to be with Hasselblad and other MF producers), the Summilux-C lenses are actually being distributed through traditional cinema suppliers. The first lenses will be delivered very soon (so far only demo sets are in distribution witht he dealers), and then they will be busy producing more to the market (delivery time is estimated to be in one year for new orders already now!). If they make it part of the Leica Camera AG website is less of a concern I think. It's a different public who buy these (though many of them may have a Leica they use for other purposes - they generally like good optics and cameras). Tom Lowe of Timescapes.org published the first video grab from the Summilux-C from the RED EPIC camera last night, and I updated my Leica History page with it: leica.overgaard.dk - Thorsten Overgaard's Leica Pages - The Leica History - Page 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted March 25, 2011 Share #24 Posted March 25, 2011 BTW--that thread also has a link to http://www.fdtimes.com/articles/leica/Leica_Report_10-10HighRezPrint.pdf, which is a PDF of the history of these lenses. Thanks for the link Howard. That's a well written and interesting piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
twittle Posted March 25, 2011 Share #25 Posted March 25, 2011 Don't know if you all noticed this or not, but on the very last page of the PDF, all the regular Leica Camera AG contact info is listed. Not that necessarily means anything, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted March 26, 2011 Share #26 Posted March 26, 2011 Tom, I hadn't noticed. Thanks for pointing it out! The plot thickens. Maybe ten years ago, Leica published on their Web site an announcement that they were for hire. They would be glad to do any lens design and/or production work for anyone. They'd do just the design, or they'd take it through production. I saw it only on the German-language page, and the announcement wasn't there for more than a couple months. This was when the site was still divided in quarters, brown and black and white as I recall. Did anyone else see it? Sounded just like Zeiss' "lensmakers to the world" proclamation. I know I saw it, but if no one else did, my remembrance doesn't help. At any rate, it looks as if these cine lenses fulfill the promise, if in a roundabout, in-the-family sort of way. Edit: OHMIGOSH! Did you see the name of the Band Pro Sales Manager? It's too good to be true: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/146995-leica-movie-primes-meet-red-epic-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=1625637'>More sharing options...
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