andybarton Posted March 24, 2011 Share #61 Â Posted March 24, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Aparently, my car is supposed to do 66 mpg... Â I know that this is frustrating for many people, but as I have said before (and I'm sure others have too), Leica will release any firmware update when it is ready and not before. No one will thank them for releasing it when it's unfinished, or if it doesn't fix the bugs it is intended to. Or worse, by fixing one thing it makes something else break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Hi andybarton, Take a look here March 18 and no firmware yet. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
patrick parker Posted March 24, 2011 Share #62 Â Posted March 24, 2011 ..the photographer reacted in an instant, first he turned on his camera waited for autofocus to wake up, meanwhile the tiger was still sleeping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelb Posted March 24, 2011 Share #63 Â Posted March 24, 2011 ..the photographer reacted in an instant, first he turned on his camera waited for autofocus to wake up, meanwhile the tiger was still sleeping.......... Â ......Suddenly, the tiger awoke and instantly bounded toward him. In a live or die situation he desperately tried to take his ultimate picture. But wait....damn! it won't focus on the rapidly approaching tiger. Finally in sheer desperation he swung the camera around on the sturdy Artisan and Artist strap and struck a glancing blow to the side of the tiger's skull. The tiger retreated, injured. Â Alas his X1 was dead, but at least the photographer was not. Â Six weeks later it arrived back from Solms. Eagerly he ripped open the box and switched it on. Whats this? V2 firmware!! Thrilled he ran off in search of the tiger again only to find that the beast had sustained brain damage from that X1 blow, and was now timid. It seems that fateful blow had updated the tiger's firmware. Â How was he now to test out the new X1 firmware? Â Stay tuned........ Â Â Â Â Â There! see what this constant bickering has done to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick parker Posted March 24, 2011 Share #64 Â Posted March 24, 2011 Ha ha ha! he then figured the best way to test the new firmware's new macro and lowlight capabilities was to put it up the tiger's rectum and ask him to squeeze firmly , the timid tiger obeyed.. Â stay tuned.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted March 24, 2011 Share #65  Posted March 24, 2011 That says that the photographer reacts in an instant - it doesn't say that the camera does. There is a subtle, but important, difference  Oh, I see. So Leica meant I can react in an instant, but the camera will not be ready? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 24, 2011 Share #66 Â Posted March 24, 2011 It's what it says... you can read onto it what you will, but there's no mention of the camera on the phrase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick parker Posted March 24, 2011 Share #67 Â Posted March 24, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) gee andy, Â that wasn't best way to defend leica, was it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbonedeedo Posted March 24, 2011 Share #68 Â Posted March 24, 2011 Really, as much complaining that's going on about this camera, why do you still own it? Why don't you sell it and move on. I'm sure it'd be much more emotionally healthy for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick parker Posted March 24, 2011 Share #69 Â Posted March 24, 2011 and not test the firmware? never! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 24, 2011 Share #70  Posted March 24, 2011 gee andy, that wasn't best way to defend leica, was it?  I'm not here to defend Leica. I will give them praise when it's due and if they have an ambiguous bit of marketing fluffery, I will comment on that too v Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted March 24, 2011 Share #71  Posted March 24, 2011 It's what it says... you can read onto it what you will, but there's no mention of the camera on the phrase.  Yes, I forgot... they were talking about people when they said auto focus and X1.  en·able = transitive verb = to make possible, practical, or easy  "The autofocus of the X1 enables photographers to react in an instant."  Seems to me they are stating that the camera's autofocus should make it possible for the user to react in an instance when making a photograph... not just to pose with the camera quickly.  Marketing fluff or not, it is silly not to want a firmware update if it can help (though I agree bitching about it isn't going to make it happen any sooner). I use my X1 a lot, but still dream of what it could have been. IF Leica can improve the speed of this camera, it could be a true classic and a lot more versatile. Why wouldn't I want that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick parker Posted March 24, 2011 Share #72 Â Posted March 24, 2011 Andy if you keep up with this discussion they may not let you moderate anymore. just let it go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 24, 2011 Share #73 Â Posted March 24, 2011 Andy if you keep up with this discussion they may not let you moderate anymore. just let it go. Â There isn't a 'they'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick parker Posted March 24, 2011 Share #74 Â Posted March 24, 2011 really? how does it work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted March 24, 2011 Share #75 Â Posted March 24, 2011 The forum is owned and run by Andreas - aka Admin. Â Telling Andy that he might lose his mod status is unlikely to be more than an empty threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick parker Posted March 24, 2011 Share #76 Â Posted March 24, 2011 oh c'mon that wasn't a threat. andy gets a kick out of my comments I'm sure of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted March 24, 2011 Share #77  Posted March 24, 2011 Keep in mind that the vast majority of firmware updates for digital cameras just fixes some bugs – some so obscure that most owners of the camera in question have never encountered those bugs. If Leica should manage to also improve performance just by updating the firmware that would certainly be great, but if they don’t then you still have the camera you paid for (minus some obscure bugs, say).  It’s just firmware after all, not a new camera. No reason to get obsessive about this. Ricoh's small camera division has a history of going beyond the fix it and implements desired changes......... I read that a new firmware is available again for the GXR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00ligan Posted March 24, 2011 Share #78 Â Posted March 24, 2011 Yah I think they added scene modes and filters as well, due to user demand. Â That's a very interesting system to me, but it's also very expensive for an experiment. I'd like to ice up someone's 28/50 kit who no longer wants it second hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 24, 2011 Share #79 Â Posted March 24, 2011 Â Marketing fluff or not, it is silly not to want a firmware update if it can help (though I agree bitching about it isn't going to make it happen any sooner). I use my X1 a lot, but still dream of what it could have been. IF Leica can improve the speed of this camera, it could be a true classic and a lot more versatile. Why wouldn't I want that? Â I don't disagree with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdawkins Posted March 24, 2011 Share #80 Â Posted March 24, 2011 Luckily I sold my X1 before everyone else gets fed up of waiting for the firmware and the market is flooded with cheap used X1s. Â I got most of my money back and bought a Canon G10, and for a punt a hardly used ancient Oympus E1 which to be frank is quite simply staggeringly brilliant and underrated. But I have an original M8 and a sweet range of Leica glass which I regard as a real Leica :-) Â All joking apart, a while back I was extremely negative about the X1 camera because I did in fact believe the marketing hype about it's speed in the metaphorical field which to me was 'the street'. But my opinion is that the camera remains a fantastic imaging device, but a device falls short of what its form suggests: street photography. Â I do hope that when the firmware is updated that you will all be in possession of the camera you deserve. Â In regards to suggestion that it is naive to be seduced by sales fluff: I'm not convinced it is always the case that the product does not live up to the sales blurb. I have purchased many items after reading the sales blurb and found that the product meets and even surpasses my expectations. A recent example is my Audi car. One year on and it still makes me smile; I would say that in this and many other cases the sales patter and product are harmonious. Â I still think the X1 is great - for what it is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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