smokysun Posted October 29, 2006 Author Share #141 Posted October 29, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) hi imants, very nice pic. i see you're loosening up in b&w. (and there must have been something in mitch's grd b&w's you really liked.) you'll have to let me know if the 28 forces you to really get in there. i think that's what it does for kratochvil. i've two more of his books 'broken dreams' and 'incognito'. his secret seems to be: you are seeing something you are not supposed to. not as in 'tittilating' but as in 'piercing the mask'. where angels fear to tread sort of thing. he puts you right there, in the scene yourself, no longer just a viewer. well, i figured i'd be down in the nice, warm valley today, experimenting with the f30 and x530. no such luck. they laid practically everybody off but kept four of us lookouts up until the snow flies. (predicted for later this week). now i'll have to pack up in a blizzard. blast! i realized i really want to be able to shoot in low-light without a flash. we'll see what the f30 does at 800 and 1600 (i expect 3200 to be a wash-out, but who knows.) and maybe the x530 with the foveon sensor will give me the angle on color i've been searching for. i would like to ask a bit of advice. i've gone back to the county fair pics, which are my favorite, and turned a bunch into film noir b&w. i thought a title like 'desire into darkness at the county fair' might be a good title, but instead left it plain. do you see a theme that makes them hang together? as you know, the title will make people read them in a certain way. what do you see? D2 county fair in b&w Photo Gallery by wayne pease at pbase.com thanks, wayne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest stnami Posted October 29, 2006 Share #142 Posted October 29, 2006 Hi Wayne gotta run to work will think about it try SCooters special. Scooter being the name of a child Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokysun Posted October 29, 2006 Author Share #143 Posted October 29, 2006 thanks. i am changing the working title to see how many hits i get! i'm testing this out for my spring show. i'm supposed to have a title by wed. D2 Meet me at the fair, Eros & Death Photo Gallery by wayne pease at pbase.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted October 30, 2006 Share #144 Posted October 30, 2006 Hi Wayne The B&W was the first time I shot jpegs as in intent, I was coming home from seeing the play "Hospital'( great too hard to explain). So I took a couple of jpegs in B&W mode, only had the camera near 2 years and never shot jpegs, the ones with the raw files I discarded I have a truckload of B&W negatives which are mostly abstracts and dropped tones, as my sculptures became photos then they became text and then the became landscapes but I am too lazy to scan them. Your country fair images are great but I am not sure about the dark titles . . ... on a different note Photography and Atrocity - Conference Webcast Home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted October 31, 2006 Share #145 Posted October 31, 2006 Great gear............. 28 millimetres VINCENT CASSEL - SITE OFFICIEL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokysun Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share #146 Posted November 5, 2006 hi imants, very nice sites. interesting what photographers do to get you interested in their web site. the cassell one quick. sorry i've been out of commission. packed up at the lookout wed and came down. it rained that nite and most of the next day. i assume i'm done for the season. (my computer died three days earlier. now i'm in the middle of a great upgrade!) presently moving to a new place in town. so that has me frazzled. i have played a bit with the f30 and x530. both have unique qualities. (see my preliminary notes in the other thread below). i just think it funny you have to be restrained by a 28 when you can shoot 28 all you want with the d-lux 3, f30, or x530! but i know myself i'd have to tape the zoom button shut. the dark title might be too much, we'll see. thanks for looking. wayne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyspedden Posted November 5, 2006 Share #147 Posted November 5, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I looked, they're interesting and I'm thinking about them. Cheers, Sean Sean The more I read of your reviews the more I realize that the reviews are a secondary objective. The real objective is of an observer of life who just happens to use visuals to describe his perspectives on life. You are an astute observer of life and in the process you have the skills, both visual and technical, to make a major contribution to the art and science of imaging. I envy you , but most of all I congratulate you on your abilities to communicate these concepts in a manner designed to help us achieve our goals. Sincerely Woody Spedden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted November 5, 2006 Share #148 Posted November 5, 2006 Sean The more I read of your reviews the more I realize that the reviews are a secondary objective. The real objective is of an observer of life who just happens to use visuals to describe his perspectives on life. You are an astute observer of life and in the process you have the skills, both visual and technical, to make a major contribution to the art and science of imaging. I envy you , but most of all I congratulate you on your abilities to communicate these concepts in a manner designed to help us achieve our goals. Sincerely Woody Spedden Hi Woody, That's a very interesting comment. Answering you adequately would take a very long post that most here would not be interested in but maybe someday we'll meet for a drink and talk. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted November 5, 2006 Share #149 Posted November 5, 2006 The 28mm is fine with me, its like......being decisive about the indecisive ....... I have yet to venture with the camera I have had it only a couple of days, The image posted is of my dad who is almost blind a hard call, it was taken at 800 iso with harsh light as intent. The colour of the foven looks a worthwhile track to explore, though I did see a site the showed what the pana P&S can do with colour in a colourists hands. http://www.pbase.com/viztyger I am happy to wait for the sigma, well another 28mm .. another story Sean gave a great call on the new leica, the M8 with a 16-18-21 mm F4 lens really looks to have the goods. A definite consideration in the future probably sooner than later.....but the D2 still fits my needs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokysun Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share #150 Posted November 6, 2006 hi imants, that's an absolutely wonderful photo of your father. obviously the camera will do what you wish. yes, i've seen some of bjorn's photos before, and they are very nice. this i see in the d-lux 2. however, something is different about the foveon. i suspect the x530 feels very much like the grd. it's a little larger than a compact and feels very nice in the hand. it has a lot of drawbacks: slowness, etc. but i'm interested in doing more experiments. (some people have found new ones for a hundred bucks. i wasn't so lucky, but still a bargain. i'll have to try some b&w). again, i love this picture of your father. kudos. wayne ps. a couple polaroid shots. i think you'll see there's something different about the color. can you describe it? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1447-sean-reid-and-street-photography/?do=findComment&comment=85245'>More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted November 6, 2006 Share #151 Posted November 6, 2006 I think the colour is a cross between the old Kodachrome and Agfa's warm toning..... foveon sensors and old Leica glass would be a pretty classy combination. The GDR pretty much is on 3:2 and B&W plus RAW, I will probably mount it onto the D2 hotshoe as I did with the XA, the image is a mockup. Thanks...the image of my dad was on his 81st birthday, used to be a brilliant watercolourist.... alas we grow old and take a different step. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokysun Posted November 7, 2006 Author Share #152 Posted November 7, 2006 hi imants, looks like a fun combination. here's the best test images of the polaroid x530 that i've found: Test Images Photo Gallery by Ellen Tomlinson at pbase.com (a note: there seems to be little or no in camera sharpening, so if none is applied after the images look soft - they sharpen well. the sigma raw software a delight to use.) finally moved to a new place. now i can begin living again and taking pictures. keep us in touch with your experiments. all this should be food for leica to come out with an unusual compact. i still want a fast lens. wayne yes, aging isn't fun. as my grandmother said on her 80th birthday: 'do it while you can.' that's about the best advice i've ever heard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted November 7, 2006 Share #153 Posted November 7, 2006 Check out this site have a look at Pat Brassington's images Stills Gallery - Artists What I have seen the M8 should produce stunning B&W prints, a pity most of the shots are pretty crappy. Then most are interested in cameras not photography. I will put a GR gallery on my site soon, let you know, the images will be my local area. Moving house is always a pain thank god I am not doing it anymore, from country to country was easier than locally. I almost snared a poloroid but deceided to wait for the DPI, the shots are take it or leave type I will leave it but the colour is great looked at the pic of my Leica it looks cosmetically OK in a photo, not so in real life..... who said images and reality............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokysun Posted November 8, 2006 Author Share #154 Posted November 8, 2006 hi imants, pat's pics remind me of the distortions south american painters like to make, a kind of 'magical realism of the body.' looking thru the other photographers interesting. people really are trying everything. thank god i don't have to compete in that market. all moved, my first eve at home. just spent a couple hours going thru the x530 pics taken on a walk today (a couple from the gallery where i'll have my show). unlike the others on pbase, i've deliberately started pushing the color. these first attempts nothing special, but you've got to admit the color has something special (all shot in the sigma raw). x530 foveon #1 Photo Gallery by wayne pease at pbase.com this is an interesting beginning. i'd like to see leica take all the best qualities of the different compacts and make a winner. once the interest in the m8 wanes a bit, maybe they'll think of us lesser mortals. ah, as for reality, ts eliot says, we can't stand too much of it! (wonder how the election's going? speaking of 'reality'.) looking forward to your grd b&w shots. promising. wayne ps. battery lasted for a gig of pics (100 raw). about 7 secs to write each. the camera has lots of quirks, like having to reset everything each time you power up (that may be solved when i know more). stalled twice and had to take the battery out and put it back. solved the problem each time. noisy zoom. and so on. it's not for fast shooting. but it's fun. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1447-sean-reid-and-street-photography/?do=findComment&comment=86974'>More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted November 8, 2006 Share #155 Posted November 8, 2006 I sorta have given up on Leica other than the M8 I can't see too much on the horizon, the Panasonic clones are too convenient and do help to prop up the sales. Others will come into the market and do their bit. We may have to start a new thread as the title doesn't seem relevant to the discussion....... No GR gallery now I just can't get that anal, the site will evove as is though Dad's Place will have a fair few well there are atleast some Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokysun Posted November 8, 2006 Author Share #156 Posted November 8, 2006 hi imants, i've enjoyed the d2 and d-lux 2 so much i suppose it doesn't matter if leica comes up with something else. if an m8 with a fast lens dropped out of the sky i certainly wouldn't refuse it. yes, maybe we need a new thread. i do think this is relevant as far as trying to get good 'street' photos in color. i still haven't seen any that transcend 'reality' as many have done with b&w. the foveon seems to produce a matte finish, as opposed to the glossy finish of the d-lux 2/3 as in bjorn's shots. is this what makes the foveon unusual? the task, as always, is to transcend time. photojournalists have the proper grip on the present. i'll see if i can think of a new thread. keep up the b&w. wayne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokysun Posted November 10, 2006 Author Share #157 Posted November 10, 2006 hi imants, posted my first fuji f30 walk shots last night. how do you think they compare in terms of color with the foveon pics above? fuji f30 the first walkabout Photo Gallery by wayne pease at pbase.com or say the d-lux 2 in this gallery? d-lux 2 july 06 Photo Gallery by wayne pease at pbase.com thanks, wayne Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1447-sean-reid-and-street-photography/?do=findComment&comment=89893'>More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted November 11, 2006 Share #158 Posted November 11, 2006 the task, as always, is to transcend time... ah the time givers return Wayne I am not sure about the colour cast of the Fuji it is a bit bland. I tried out the GRD mounted on the D2, worked in raw with both, it was OK but I may try side by side. Write time was not a problem Santu Mofokeng Santu Mofokeng artist and art...the-artists.org Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted November 11, 2006 Share #159 Posted November 11, 2006 I've really enjoyed this thread. But it's relevance and value goes way beyond the Digital Forum in which it was originally posted. Makes me wish there was a dedicated forum on photographics aesthetics and related issues like composition and other elements that make a great photo great. It's so easy to become enamoured with hardware, which dominates this forum. The Photo forums encourage that type of discussion somewhat, but rarely to the depth of this thread. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted November 11, 2006 Share #160 Posted November 11, 2006 John sometimes it feels as if this is just a conversation between Wayne and I, I am glad people enjoy the thread and wish more would join in Santu Mofokeng is one of those photographers tthat is culturally and politically entrenched in his society and his work is reflecive of that direct contact. What I enjoy about his work is that it works on two levels. In a way it is 'Street Photography" ( whatever that is these days as the term is bandied around in a meaningless fashion). He sees himself as a person who goes out in the streets and takes photos and we look at his work and say wow great stuff, then this leads us into its political and social undertones.With his way of recording points of time ita all becomes a whole new journey that transcends the photographs in which the new images created in our minds compell us to consider what we know very little about. I guess we are out in the streets again... once we get past subject and into metaphor photography begins......... well the time givers have returned Santu Mofokeng Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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