If the lenses of the X1 aren't produced in Germany, what's MADE in GERMANY?

[phancj]

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so you seriously think it is not misleading?

 

It's advertising my friend. It is staying afloat in this challenging and competitive world. The whole world is doing that, right or wrong.

 

CJ

[h00ligan]

read up on EU law and then we can talk about it some more. rather than spouting hypothetical statements

 

You know, you've been humoured, people have discussed it with you, many have tried to explain a counter pov.

 

Clearly you believe what you believe.. and now you're responding like that even though you've been afforded courtesy.

 

The thread's been answered, get over it. If you don't like it, take it up with the eu, or an attorney, or whatever makes you feel better.

 

Feels like the return of Emma tbh.

[hunz]

Clearly you know very little about European Law.

 

Need I say more?

[phancj]

Edward,

 

The AG of the EU Commission is in the house...

 

Interpol will tear apart leica's solm facility, all hell breaks loose!

 

you've been warned!

[h00ligan]

Clearly you know very little about European Law.

 

Need I say more?

 

Now I know this is 'Emma'.

 

Same assertive semi literate writing with attempts at authoritative tone.

 

How could one construe any semblance of an idea about what I do or do not know about EU law based on what I said.. unless it was a failure to quote or slow typing.. another 'Emma' trademark.

 

CJ, you better watch your tone!

[timd.]

Clearly you know very little about European Law.

 

Need I say more?

 

Tell us what we should know. It's about the amount of value added in the country mentioned on the label, right?

[phancj]

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Now I know this is 'Emma'.

 

Same assertive semi literate writing with attempts at authoritative tone.

 

How could one construe any semblance of an idea about what I do or do not know about EU law based on what I said.. unless it was a failure to quote or slow typing.. another 'Emma' trademark.

 

CJ, you better watch your tone!

 

SOoorrryyy Bratheerrrr, can't type propperly as mi hands are Tremmbllinngggg wif feaR....

[hunz]

As tails go between their legs they scurry from the scene.

 

Why don't you meet me here in London at our offices and I can elucidate more about what is covered within EU law regarding correct origin labeling requirements.

 

FYI, Interestingly the Leica D-Lux 4 is labelled:

 

Made in Japan. LEICA CAMERA GERMANY

[h00ligan]

Sure thing, PM me your address, I'll be there shortly to see my family and pay a visit. I'd love an education from you about EU law.. I can in turn give you lessons on manners and the written language.

[phancj]

My last attempt at a polite answer:

 

My X1 says "Made in Germany" at the baseplate. I am certain leica being a reputable company with long historical standing and prestige it will definitely not risk jeopardizing its position or run afoul of the law just to make a few bucks from one of the less expensive models.

 

And if I am wrong then they deserve to be punished for this misdeed but personally I think the X1 is a cool camera and takes great pictures so I am okay and pragmatic with these things...

 

But you taunt of "meet me...." sounds like 19th century gangland here in Asia and I do take a front to that, sounds like a challenge, juvenile at best.

 

You can do better than that, take leica to court, punish them for their misrepresentation, be a fighter for the free world.

 

Otherwise, zip it and move along. The x100 launch is imminent. Good riddance.

[hunz]

When are you coming over, so I can put time in the diary

[h00ligan]

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[timd.]

While the two of you Gentlemen are preparing to fistfight, could anyone answer my question about EU-law? Thank you.

[h00ligan]

Fist fight? I thought we were going to have a conversation

 

Maybe this has some answers? As always, you may want to check the sources.

[Guest Linsengericht]

It's about the amount of value added in the country mentioned on the label, right?

 

Made in Germany - Ursprungsbezeichnung und Qualitätsbegriff - IHK Region Stuttgart

[stunsworth]

Do you would like to buy an original Rolex watch, made in Japan, under the quality control of the company?

 

It wouldn't bother me one bit.

[SJP]

Under copyright law in the United States and other signatories of the Berne Convention, "country of origin" is defined in an inclusive way to ensure the protection of intellectual rights of writers and creators.

A X1 camera is made in the mind of the (German) designers & engineers, where you buy, machine, file, solder or grind the parts is largely immaterial so long as they comply with the design tolerances and requirements. Final QC packaging and shipping along with the German warranty is the requirement for "made in Germany".

 

The ipod or Mac is a "made in the USA" product, despite being produced/assembled in China or elsewhere.

 

Mind over matter, basically.

[andybarton]

Ok. That's enough threats, real or imagined, thanks.

[Danielsan]

Car Companys like Mercedes or BMW use parts from all over the world for their cars, the important thing is that Leica or Mercedes make sure how those parts are designed and what materials are used etc..and that everything is designed well, producing great IQ.. that everything last long.. its not important where the factory is, the design and brainstorm for each product is the important thing and the machines used to build and calibrate them.

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[hunz]

We were having a conversation. No threats, physical or otherwise was ever implied or intended. Can't two people organise to meet to discuss?

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"The x100 launch is imminent. Good riddance."

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Seems some people get sensitive over their equipment. My posts were never intended to offend.

 

Anyway, EU law is highly complex. Lets leave it at that.

 

Peace.