cbretteville Posted February 7, 2011 Share #1 Posted February 7, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm rather new to HC-110 and have been using solution B so far. Now I'm looking at souping a roll of Fomapan Creative 200 and in solution B MDC calls for a mere 3.5 minutes. It feels rather short. Does anyone have experience using HC-110 for such short development times? Thanks, Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Hi cbretteville, Take a look here HC-110B, too short dev times?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
andybarton Posted February 7, 2011 Share #2 Posted February 7, 2011 Me. Pan F+ needs a very short time with Dil B (4 minutes IIRC) and that really can show up your agitation technique... Dilute it down to Dil E and be happy (Edit: Having said that, the Massive Development Chart isn't very helpful with Dil E and that film... http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.php?Film=Fomapan+200&Developer=HC-110&mdc=Search Dil E is half the strength of Dil B, I think, so the development time should be x2 ) Dil H is what you need... Don't forget that you can obviously just add water to Dil B to get the required weaker solution. http://photo.net/black-and-white-photo-film-processing-forum/00TKwC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted February 7, 2011 Thanks Andy, That is what I thought. Souped a roll of Fortepan 100 this week end that was in for a mere 4.5 minutes in solution B and that would probably have done better with a more diluted developer. This is about the best reference I've dug up on HC-110 even it hasn't been updated to the fact that it seems we now get syrup over here too. Kodak HC-110 Developer - Unofficial Resource Page Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted February 7, 2011 Share #4 Posted February 7, 2011 I think that US strength HC110 is different from European strength - go very carefully with that resource. And, to be fair, any on-line advice regarding HC110. DIl H is half strength Dil B, btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share #5 Posted February 7, 2011 All of Kodak's web pages on both sides of the Atlantic seems to link to the same Kodak publication for HC-110: j24.pdf. The site I linked to has tables for European and US strength concentrate. However, product number listed for the European product differs from the on on my bottle and the dilutions given for the European one is completely different than the ones listed on my bottle which happens to match the ones listed for US syrup. Are we sure there is a difference in the US and European versions of the product these days? Carl EDIT: I went back to read some more, it seems the US syrup needs to be diluted 1:3 first to make stock and then 1:31 to make working solution. The European concentrate is already at stock strength (fells more like syrup to me) and only needs the 1:31 for working solution. So to answer my own question it seems they indeed are different, but not the same way they used to be. Very confusing. C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted February 7, 2011 Share #6 Posted February 7, 2011 Hang on - I will get the product number for my bottle of syrup... CAT 501 0541 This bottle happens to have been "Fabriqué en France" The recommended times on the side of the bottle are rubbish, btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share #7 Posted February 7, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Same one I have. C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPerson Posted February 7, 2011 Share #8 Posted February 7, 2011 Carl - this might be useful for the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted February 7, 2011 Share #9 Posted February 7, 2011 C 41 is 3.25 min. Drop the loaded reel into the full tank in the dark, cap and invert. Dilute 1:64 and multiply time by 1.4 for a start. Don`t try controlling by reducing agitation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasw_ Posted February 8, 2011 Share #10 Posted February 8, 2011 i use dilution h with hc110, especially if the b time is less than 6'. i find more shadow detail with dilution h. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted February 8, 2011 Share #11 Posted February 8, 2011 I do wish Kodak would make one strength syrup. I buy EU syrup, but dilute it to what looks like US solutions (DilB 1:31), according to that linked-to chart above, and have excellent results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted February 8, 2011 Share #12 Posted February 8, 2011 When dilution B (1+31) is going under 5:00 minutes you can go to dilution H (1+63) and double the dilution B time. Take care about the minimum amount of concentrate (6ml) for each 135-36 or 120 roll film. For making your work solution you can directly dilute from the concentrate if you have plastic syringes. In fact HC-110 is working very easily. Also suitable for Tgrain type films. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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