Guest egma Posted January 8, 2011 Share #1 Posted January 8, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, I'm new to this great forum and silently read for a while. After M9 introduction and subsequent price drop for M8 I took the jump to M8 and Elmarit 28 asph in last summer. I am very happy with the cameras compactness and it's IQ so far. In fact, concerning IQ I feel no need for M9. With M8 I got C1 V4 LE as post processing software and after several hours use I sort of like the C1 software. But my C1 version does not have a print engine. So far I sent the jpgs to a lab for printing. Now I plan to do B&W prints myself with Epson P50 and special B&W inks. I felt that I would need Lightroom 3 for printing and either switch to a combined C1 and LR workflow or completely switch to LR. I discovered that the C1 V6 Pro newly supports printing (along with other enhancements, e.g. for B&W processing). Since I do not like the idea of using multiple different software products with comparable functionality, each with a learning curve and each with future updates and corresponding costs and since the costs for C1 V6 Pro and LR3 seem comparable, I will go for either C1 or LR3. If possible I would like to stay with C1 to save me from additional learning curves. However printing is a new function in C1 V6 and I guess its functional support will be more limited than LR. My question to those using C1 V6 is: Have you used the printing function, did the results meet your expectations? Shall I go for C1 or switch to LR? Thanks for sharing your experience. Best Regards egma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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papimuzo Posted January 8, 2011 Share #2 Posted January 8, 2011 Hi egma, perhaps you should look at the thread here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-post-processing-forum/153889-capture-1-new-great-4.html Jamie Roberts gave and still give good advices about C1 nay version. Happy imaging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 8, 2011 Share #3 Posted January 8, 2011 I find that to get optimal tonality and sharpening for prints, be it B&W or color, I need to export the files from C1-6 to CS5 in any case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest egma Posted January 9, 2011 Share #4 Posted January 9, 2011 I find that to get optimal tonality and sharpening for prints, be it B&W or color, I need to export the files from C1-6 to CS5 in any case. Jaap, thank you for your response. So the idea of using one post processing software only, either C1 or Lightroom, will not give optimal results despite C1 improvements? I don't think, that an investment for CS5, which you are using, would make sense for me, I'm amateur only. egma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi4 Posted January 9, 2011 Share #5 Posted January 9, 2011 I have C1-6 and LR3/PSCS-5. The print function in LR3 works perfectly for me and using my profiles made with x-rite i1Pro match my profiled screen extremely closely if not to say exactly. Results are exactly the same as from Photoshop but the use and creation of templates is for me easier in LR. The printing function in C1-6 has a similar functionality to the one in LR3 and I would use it BUT prints from it on my system do not match my screen to perfection. My post in an other thread: I do have one problem which is presently a support case. Prints made with C1 using the profiles I made with i1pro do not exactly match my profiled screen. If I develop as tif and then print from PSCS5 or LR3 using the exact same profiles and settings the match with the screen is perfect. The prints from C1 are slightly darker and a tiny bit too cyan, very apparent in skies. If this problem is resolved, I will probably print from C1-6 in the future as it is my developer of choice. Sorry for the long answer regards Maurice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted January 9, 2011 Share #6 Posted January 9, 2011 i too find the prints darker, but the prints come out a bit more red -- printing using an epson r2880, and i looking at the print with a calibrated eizo screen. it is all rather frustrating that one button can't just print what the camera takes. especially with an m9 where, aside from some cropping, the picture is most often exactly what i want to print. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest egma Posted January 10, 2011 Share #7 Posted January 10, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have C1-6 and LR3/PSCS-5.The print function in LR3 works perfectly for me and using my profiles made with x-rite i1Pro match my profiled screen extremely closely if not to say exactly. Results are exactly the same as from Photoshop but the use and creation of templates is for me easier in LR. The printing function in C1-6 has a similar functionality to the one in LR3 and I would use it BUT prints from it on my system do not match my screen to perfection. My post in an other thread: I do have one problem which is presently a support case. Prints made with C1 using the profiles I made with i1pro do not exactly match my profiled screen. If I develop as tif and then print from PSCS5 or LR3 using the exact same profiles and settings the match with the screen is perfect. The prints from C1 are slightly darker and a tiny bit too cyan, very apparent in skies. If this problem is resolved, I will probably print from C1-6 in the future as it is my developer of choice. Sorry for the long answer regards Maurice Thank you for sharing your experience, Maurice. Seems C1 even with v6 is not quite up there to become the one and only raw developer for my needs. But since my primary printing concern for now is B&W, maybe its worth a trial and spend a couple of hours testing the 30 day trial version. Because if Phase One closes this gap, C1 could be the ideal tool. Regards egma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted January 11, 2011 Share #8 Posted January 11, 2011 Hi egma, perhaps you should look at the thread here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-post-processing-forum/153889-capture-1-new-great-4.html Jamie Roberts gave and still give good advices about C1 nay version. Happy imaging. Thanks! That's kind of you to say... but I have to add in all honesty I haven't done very much printing from C1 v6. I typically make TIFFs then output to PS for a final sizing and sharpening and printing. However, C1 is getting there. I'm not sure why its printing engine would give, though, vastly different looks from the same output (paper) profiles. That shouldn't happen unless the rendering intent is different... So I would check that; I tend to prefer "relative colorimetric" rendering in PS and in my RIP; I think C1 by default is set to "Perceptual"... However too green or too cyan or too magenta sounds like other problems... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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