Icarus Posted January 4, 2011 Share #1 Posted January 4, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) After selling my M6, MP and M8.2 about a year ago and only shooting my Nikon D3, I bought a M6 Wetzler Classic today with a 40mm Summicron lens and an Epson V700 scanner. I just couldn't stay away. I missed shooting film. I missed the size of the Classic M cameras. I missed the rangefinder. I missed it all. When I opened the box and pulled out the M6 it was like coming home. What a great tool. I can't wait to get out and shoot it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cbretteville Posted January 4, 2011 Share #2 Posted January 4, 2011 Welcome home! Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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minhhich Posted January 6, 2011 Share #4 Posted January 6, 2011 I went to a cousin wedding i december and with a roll of portra 160 loaded in my m6. I shot without flash in the reception and the pictures came out sharp . The photographer with a D2xs and 2 flashes was amazed how i could do that. I sed well cus i didnt have any mirror box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 6, 2011 Share #5 Posted January 6, 2011 I welcome this decision, because I've never "dropped" the film although I have an M9 and M8. see here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/nature-wildlife/142340-back-film-cosmos-flowers.html as I said the film is the high fidelity for image (specially colour) as for high fidelity for sound with vacuum amplifiers Happy New Year to all of you Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicameter Posted January 6, 2011 Share #6 Posted January 6, 2011 I went to a cousin wedding i december and with a roll of portra 160 loaded in my m6. I shot without flash in the reception and the pictures came out sharp . The photographer with a D2xs and 2 flashes was amazed how i could do that. I sed well cus i didnt have any mirror box When you used portra 160, the reception must have been iluminated very well? Was it with daylight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 6, 2011 Share #7 Posted January 6, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) When you used portra 160, the reception must have been iluminated very well?Was it with daylight? Please look at photo n°6 (with Portra 160) on this thread ("film vs digital") http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/landscape-travel/157724-snow-always-snow.html Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted January 6, 2011 Share #8 Posted January 6, 2011 When you used portra 160, the reception must have been iluminated very well?Was it with daylight? I find Portra160 is fine for most indoor lighting (when scanning at least), but then the speed of the lens is critical for good results: using the Noctilux or Nokton works very well, a Summilux also gives acceptable results (for me), but anything darker begins to introduce some camera or subject movement. The new Portra400 works very much better now - so darker interiors are almost a non-issue. But naturally being able to crank-up the ISO on a digital unit gives more latitude, and a liberal attitude to shoot-and-pray. Those film-users with the knowledge and ability to push the new 400 film probably have none of these worries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgray Posted January 6, 2011 Share #9 Posted January 6, 2011 I find Portra160 is fine for most indoor lighting (when scanning at least), but then the speed of the lens is critical for good results... You guys must frequent interiors with a good deal more light than I do. For me, ISO 400 often isn't enough for f/1.4 and 1/15 - 1/30th of a second. I use Portra 800 or TMZ in those situations quite a bit. It just wouldn't happen at ISO 160. Granted, if you are shooting at f/1, that buys you a stop over what I have above, but when I'm shooting at ISO 1600, I don't see how that extra stop gets you to ISO 160... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted January 6, 2011 Share #10 Posted January 6, 2011 You guys must frequent interiors with a good deal more light than I do. For me, ISO 400 often isn't enough for f/1.4 and 1/15 - 1/30th of a second. I use Portra 800 or TMZ in those situations quite a bit. It just wouldn't happen at ISO 160. Granted, if you are shooting at f/1, that buys you a stop over what I have above, but when I'm shooting at ISO 1600, I don't see how that extra stop gets you to ISO 160... I don't know what to say - I don't post images anymore because there's always someone who questions (a) methodology ( scanning/post-processing © [irrelevant] artistic content, so I guess you'll have to take my word for it. Since getting the M6 again I've only shot Portra160 with it - indoors and out - using 400 with the CL and now with the 500CM. The interior shots are fine. Naturally, I don't mean night-time shooting, or the darkest corner of a dimly-lit cellar, but I've shot in cafés and at home (even in the winter), and the results are no problem with the M6. When the winter gets really as dark and miserable as the current one in Sweden, I mostly use the M8 indoors. But a few normal lamps are actually enough to lift the lighting for 160, in my experience*. *This is with the M6 - the Hasselblad at 2,8 I haven't got the knack to hold quite still enough (yet?). Just as a final edit - this may be about 'managing expectations' - I never try to take a shot of people in really dark conditions with a film camera, because I don't want to waste a film shot. On the other hand, I'll try the same shot with the M8 (or even the iPhone4 with HDR switched on!) because failure won't cost me anything. If you're talking about such borderline shots, then I'd agree digital is better. But with a bit of light - sometimes a mixture of weak outdoor and some indoor lighting, then 160 manages totally okay imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted January 7, 2011 Share #11 Posted January 7, 2011 I love using the M6. And I use mostly ISO 100 slide film. Even in low light f/2 @ 1/15 goes a long way. Mind you today was sizzling hot visiting Auckland with sunny f/16-plus conditions! Enjoy your M6 no matter what the light is doing -- and always take the weather with you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Ryan Posted January 7, 2011 Share #12 Posted January 7, 2011 Icarus At least you are true to your namesake and not flying too close to the sun with your use of ISO 160 indoors Like David from NZ and the redoubtable Doc (that ISO 160 shot of the fields under light snow is magical) I have found that Iso 100 (160) can take you quite some way if you work at it. I have been experimenting with Arista premium 100 in the Hexar AF and the M4. It has been lots of fun and quite a revelation because here in the antipodes we are under constant cloud and threats of showers, which is very unusual for this time of year. Please post some of your photos with the M6 using the V700 dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted January 7, 2011 Share #13 Posted January 7, 2011 When the winter gets really as dark and miserable as the current one in Sweden, I mostly use the M8 indoors. But a few normal lamps are actually enough to lift the lighting for 160, in my experience*. Hi You omitted the cold and snow. And snow & rain shots at night real nice. Linkoping Oly compact 1/15 f/2 200 ASA C41 Noel Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/140808-back-home-back-to-film/?do=findComment&comment=1550946'>More sharing options...
plasticman Posted January 7, 2011 Share #14 Posted January 7, 2011 Hi You omitted the cold and snow. And snow & rain shots at night real nice. Linkoping Oly compact 1/15 f/2 200 ASA C41 The cold and the snow! Today we were 'blessed' with plus 3 in Stockholm - positively tropical! The downside is that the higher temperatures bring down the ice and snow gathered on all the roofs around town - not so fun... Anyways, a very quick - slightly more scientific - post than my equivocal effort last night. One thing I'm very nervous about when making these posts is sounding like a smart-@ss who's effectively saying "I can do this better than you". I just want to underline that I don't see using 160 indoors as a massive achievement - and I persist in saying this because I don't like the "it can't be done with film" attitude either. So, to cut a long story short, I simply did some light measurements last night with the Sekonic 380 - I found that a single diffuse tungsten light-source at around 1,5 meters gives an EV of 6,5, and measuring the halogen lighting in my kitchen I get a range from 8,5 (within the somewhat wide-angle light-cone) to around 7 in other parts of the room indirectly lit by the spots. Daytime indoors gave a reading in the middle of the room on an overcast, winter's day in Sweden of 7,5. In other words, all of these values fell within shutters speeds of around 1/60 to 1/125 at f1. And obviously no-one needs to buy a Noctilux to get f1, as the Nokton comes close enough at a very low price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 7, 2011 Share #15 Posted January 7, 2011 Icarus At least you are true to your namesake and not flying too close to the sun with your use of ISO 160 indoors Like David from NZ and the redoubtable Doc (that ISO 160 shot of the fields under light snow is magical) I have found that Iso 100 (160) can take you quite some way if you work at it. I have been experimenting with Arista premium 100 in the Hexar AF and the M4. It has been lots of fun and quite a revelation because here in the antipodes we are under constant cloud and threats of showers, which is very unusual for this time of year. Please post some of your photos with the M6 using the V700 dan To Dan and for lovers of film especially Portra Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Inside our church from the 12th century M7 28mm Summicron Asph Kodak Portra 400 here Henry PS:sorry the lights at left are lamps lighting the church picture taken without flash Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Inside our church from the 12th century M7 28mm Summicron Asph Kodak Portra 400 here Henry PS:sorry the lights at left are lamps lighting the church picture taken without flash ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/140808-back-home-back-to-film/?do=findComment&comment=1551237'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 7, 2011 Share #16 Posted January 7, 2011 ... another one for Dan You have certainly recognize The Louvre (Castle) in Paris cloudy, gray and cold that day, no sun Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M7 Summicron 28mm Asph Portra 160 Coolscan V picture uncorrected Henry Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M7 Summicron 28mm Asph Portra 160 Coolscan V picture uncorrected Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/140808-back-home-back-to-film/?do=findComment&comment=1551273'>More sharing options...
Xmas Posted January 7, 2011 Share #17 Posted January 7, 2011 In other words, all of these values fell within shutters speeds of around 1/60 to 1/125 at f1. And obviously no-one needs to buy a Noctilux to get f1, as the Nokton comes close enough at a very low price. Hi I've only got the CV f/1.5 5cm, but it is still heavier than the Oly 35RD. You should be able to use 1/15... And I ment the night time tempertures, I like to be able to tell my finger tips are still there, dont like -5C.. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 7, 2011 Share #18 Posted January 7, 2011 I welcome this decision, because I've never "dropped" the film although I have an M9 and M8.see here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/nature-wildlife/142340-back-film-cosmos-flowers.html as I said the film is the high fidelity for image (specially colour) as for high fidelity for sound with vacuum amplifiers Happy New Year to all of you Henry the proof by image ... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! on your left the welknown vacuum amplifiers Audio Research with its 6550 tube (a marvel for voice reproduction and strings sound of violin,cello...) and on your right M7 the ultimate rangefinder Leica for film Please enjoy pure sound and pure image Regards Henry Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! on your left the welknown vacuum amplifiers Audio Research with its 6550 tube (a marvel for voice reproduction and strings sound of violin,cello...) and on your right M7 the ultimate rangefinder Leica for film Please enjoy pure sound and pure image Regards Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/140808-back-home-back-to-film/?do=findComment&comment=1551545'>More sharing options...
Dan Ryan Posted January 9, 2011 Share #19 Posted January 9, 2011 Henry Impressive shots with the Portra. Thank you. We love Julien le Pauvre - but I don't think its existing structure is nearly as old as 'Your' church ... which reminds me of something, somewhere ... and I am checking it out . Ah yes, we recognise the Pei Pyramide du Louvre My favourite shot of my wife is of her texting the kids on her phone in that location. But I can't show it here - Canon G10:eek: Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgray Posted January 9, 2011 Share #20 Posted January 9, 2011 I don't know what to say - I don't post images anymore because there's always someone who questions (a) methodology ( scanning/post-processing © [irrelevant] artistic content, so I guess you'll have to take my word for it. Haha word. Most of my photos only ever go to flickr. I don't post them on forums most of the time for a variety of reasons. Since getting the M6 again I've only shot Portra160 with it - indoors and out - using 400 with the CL and now with the 500CM. The interior shots are fine. Naturally, I don't mean night-time shooting, or the darkest corner of a dimly-lit cellar, but I've shot in cafés and at home (even in the winter), and the results are no problem with the M6. Got you. I think that's it right there. Especially if you have a Noctilux, you would be getting by at 160 where I'd be using 400. I was thinking indoors at night, etc. So I guess my original statement is true: You guys must frequent interiors with way more light than I do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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