Finally, Mac

[sandymc]

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I don't know why anyone would wish to replace the mouse. The Mighty Mouse and Magic Mouse are far more pleasant to use than any Windows mouse I've come across. The Magic Mouse is especially good with its ergonomics and functions. You just need to configure it correctly.

 

This one of those "two kinds of people" things. Most people can use a Mac mouse quite happily, and don't even notice there's something "different" about it. Then there are those, myself included, that simply can't deal with Mac's built in mouse acceleration curve. We find ourselves continually overshooting or undershooting mouse movements. Insanity sets in shortly after

 

Simplest solution - a Microsoft mouse with the Microsoft driver. There are other more exotic solutions, but that's the simplest.

 

I write this on a Mac, btw. But not one with a Apple mouse on it!

 

Sandy

[Nicoleica]

This one of those "two kinds of people" things. Most people can use a Mac mouse quite happily, and don't even notice there's something "different" about it. Then there are those, myself included, that simply can't deal with Mac's built in mouse acceleration curve. We find ourselves continually overshooting or undershooting mouse movements. Insanity sets in shortly after

 

Simplest solution - a Microsoft mouse with the Microsoft driver. There are other more exotic solutions, but that's the simplest.

 

I write this on a Mac, btw. But not one with a Apple mouse on it!

 

Sandy

 

Hi Sandy,I'm still puzzled, as you can adjust all aspects of the mouse to your personal preferences.

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[Shootist]

I also agree fully that it takes a little while to become familiar with the Mac. Coming from Windows, there will be times where you become frustrated at first. But after a short while, something will suddenly go 'click' inside your head, and you will then wonder why you spent so long struggling with Windows when the Mac does things so much better.

 

 

I do however think that Macs are generally faster than Windows machines, as the software and hardware are both generally more efficient and elegant in their execution.

But most important of all, ENJOY your new machine. :cool:

 

I beg to differ. I and most users do not struggle with Windows. It is a operating system. It is programs that run on that OS that some may have problems with, IE poorly written, buggy. Please inform that there are NO buggy programs that run on a Mac

I start a program and use it. No struggle. Whether it is PS/LR or the many other programs I use at/for work or at home.

 

If you didn't know this already both Mac's and Windows PC's use the exact same hardware today. CPU, memory, hard drives and video cards. Yes there may be some changes to a video card and it's drivers to function with the Mac OS then the Windows OS but other wise they are the same.

The only real difference, today and years past, is that I can buy a Plethora of components, motherboards, video cards and the like, that work with Windows, all of my choosing, even after I buy a name brand computer. But can only buy a Mac from Apple and if I need or want to upgrade it in someway, other then memory, hard drives and maybe CD/DVD drives, I have to go to Apple to do so.

 

In any event I wish jaapv the best with his new computer.

[Shootist]

Hi Sandy,I'm still puzzled, as you can adjust all aspects of the mouse to your personal preferences.

 

Never understood why Apple still uses a one button mouse. Posting this from a Win XP PC with a mouse that has 5 different push buttons (all doing different things), one of them in the scroll wheel.

 

Whatever, have a great day.

[andybarton]

Apple mice are two button with a scroll area in the middle. You can also scroll from left to right on the surface. These are highly sophisticated and highly capable mice. The one button Apple mouse went about 10 years ago.

 

I use both a Mac at home and a Windows machine at the office. I know which I prefer, which is why I have a Mac at home. The thought of having to deal with the "quirks" and problems associated with Windows in my own time is something that I am not prepared to contemplate

 

The frustrations I find with Windows (XP) are entirely down to the operating system and it's bizzare way of doing things - or not doing them, to be more prcise. Frustrations with a Save dialog box which makes it very hard to save to where you want, for example.

 

The applications that run on top of the OS are, for the most part, identical - apart from those OS underpinning frustrations.

 

But, I have no problem switching between the two OS's.

 

What is interesting is that a considerable number of people migrate from a PC to a Mac, and stay there, whicle very, very few Mac users migrate the other way. That in itself, must say something.

 

YMMV of course, and if you are happy with Windows, then that's fine with me.

[pico]

One interesting difference in the PC and Mac (at least the last I tried), is that in Photoshop on Windows allows you to open a file using a URL. For example, if I am in Photoshop-Windows and take File-Open, I can type or paste http://www.digoliardi.net/forgotten.jpg and it opens the file across the network, but uses the local PC for scratch files, and so-forth. It's the Windows OS enabling it, not Photoshop. (But don't do it, folks. It's quirky!)

 

FTP? I highly recommend Fetch. It is a thoroughly Mac-like FTP, allowing shortcuts and also (surprisingly), the ability to edit documents right on the FTP server. Not recommended for Photoshop, but occasionally useful for other documents.

 

When you really get into the Mac, we can show you all kinds of 'neat stuff' underneath.

[Jamie Roberts]

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The frustrations I find with Windows (XP) are entirely down to the operating system and it's bizzare way of doing things - or not doing them, to be more prcise. Frustrations with a Save dialog box which makes it very hard to save to where you want, for example.

 

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Andy, I know you're saying to each his / her own, and I am too, but I'm really very puzzled by this statement.

 

What's bizarre about XP's (or Win7's) save dialog box? I can save things exactly where I want them...

 

I've used multiple systems, including Macs, but I went back to PCs long ago for their Linux capability as well as open hardware, so count me as the weird guy you never hear about.

 

I've never had a problem with PC stability, given the right hardware (always an issue with an open system). I still use lots of other Apple products (phone, iPad).

 

I know the platforms are essentially the same hardware these days. I agree that Apple's approach to design is more elegant, but most of my PCs never get switched off and run without incident; I also have never had a PC virus on any of my 4+ machines over the last 10 years. It's all about what steps you take to protect yourself.

 

ETA: Jaap! Enjoy your new computer. I'm very jealous One of the other reason I stick with PCs is that they're still cheaper for the same computing power

[delander †]

Any recommendations for a book to show a PC user now a new mac user the ins and outs of the mac or snow leopard operating system?

 

Thanks,

 

Jeff

[sandymc]

Hi Sandy,I'm still puzzled, as you can adjust all aspects of the mouse to your personal preferences.

 

Nicole,

 

It has to do with how much screen motion occurs if you move the mouse quickly versus move the mouse slowly - and no, there isn't an adjustment.

 

Regards,

 

Sandy

[Marty]

The Missing Manual books by David Pogue are pretty good. E.g. Snow Leopard or Switching to Mac.

[andybarton]

Andy, I know you're saying to each his / her own, and I am too, but I'm really very puzzled by this statement.

 

What's bizarre about XP's (or Win7's) save dialog box? I can save things exactly where I want them...

 

I have never seen Windows 7, so can't comment but, for example, Windows XP Save box allows one to have frequently used folders down the grey side panel. Terrific. Unless you are using Acrobat, where they font appear and you have to navigate from root, across the network, to where you want to save. Every time.

 

It's ridiculous. Maybe it's an Acrobat thing, I don't know, but it's a PITA when you open and save a lot of PDFs.

 

What shines through is that there is no guiding hand or principles behind Windows as there is for the MacOS, where Apple have had human interface rules in place since 1984. On Windows, it's clearly a fee for all, to the detriment of the user.

 

YMMV. Again. MacOS = cold dead hands for me.

[Nicoleica]

Nicole,

 

It has to do with how much screen motion occurs if you move the mouse quickly versus move the mouse slowly - and no, there isn't an adjustment.

 

Regards,

 

Sandy

 

Hi Sandy,

 

Perhaps it's me, but I don't have any problems with that. I've adjusted my tracking and scrolling settings to match my preferences, but that's about it.

[Chroma project]

everyone seems to take care of you here, Jaap welcome to a more inspiring environment. The Mac

[Jeff S]

Keep in mind, Jaap, that some of us here who love their Mac also love LR.

 

Jeff

[Jamie Roberts]

I have never seen Windows 7, so can't comment but, for example, Windows XP Save box allows one to have frequently used folders down the grey side panel. Terrific. Unless you are using Acrobat, where they font appear and you have to navigate from root, across the network, to where you want to save. Every time.

 

It's ridiculous. Maybe it's an Acrobat thing, I don't know, but it's a PITA when you open and save a lot of PDFs.

 

What shines through is that there is no guiding hand or principles behind Windows as there is for the MacOS, where Apple have had human interface rules in place since 1984. On Windows, it's clearly a fee for all, to the detriment of the user.

 

YMMV. Again. MacOS = cold dead hands for me.

 

Um, Andy, really....

 

I get that Macs are nice, but you're spouting nonsense about the PC platform and what shines through and what doesn't.

 

It's not a UX free-for-all on Windows any more than it is on the Mac, sorry, and hasn't been for a very long time..

 

As a point of fact, Microsoft has also had human interface rules in place since the 80s They were called IBM CUA rules back then, and actually applied to many platforms

 

IBM Common User Access - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Now it's true that there are many more vendors writing for Windows, and some of them do weird things... Adobe among them!

 

To your particular problem, I'm not sure why your network favourites on the left-hand side don't show network shortcuts properly. If there are none, then starting at the root of the network *is* the standard.

 

You can fix this very easily, though... create a shortcut to the network resource you want and put it on your desktop. Ever afterward you won't have to browse... just like a Mac

[andybarton]

I'm not going to get into an argument about a Mac vs Windows thing. There are Mac and Windows forums for that sort of thing. Not this one.

 

You like Windows, I like bitter. I like MacOS, you like lager.

 

Who cares?

[Jamie Roberts]

I'm not going to get into an argument about a Mac vs Windows thing. There are Mac and Windows forums for that sort of thing. Not this one.

 

You like Windows, I like bitter. I like MacOS, you like lager.

 

Who cares?

 

You're right. I don't. I'd love Jaap's new computer I just wanted to help you fix your Windows annoyance, really.

 

By the way, I like bitter *and* lager.

[jaapv]

Thanks everybody for the kind advice :)(getting tired of hitting individual thanks buttons;)) I'm sure I'll work it out and my notebook is filling up with useful suggestions.

[Rick]

Jaap, great choice, you are going to absolutely love it. I won't add anything specific but, in general I'd only say that google is your friend. If, you don't get something or think Apple makes something difficult, Google it. When, I switched over there were a lot of things I didn't know how to do on the Mac and it was mildly frustrating that Apple could be so stupid about some of these. Then, as stated in posts above, you figure them out and slowly come to the realization that it is all done so much easier, less redundant, and more straight forward. The user interface is a joy. For me that stage took about 6-weeks. The next stage after that is just being pissed at Microsoft for selling what is basically a screwed-up product.

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[tobey bilek]

If you can afford a Mac Pro , go for it. But it is way overkill for photoshop unless you do a whole bunch of batch processing.

 

For simple photo manipulation, a mini will do fine, so will an iMac. I have run it on a bare 13" macbook with 1 GB when I travel.

 

I had unimaginable trouble with PS and a PC. I finally learned to manually wipe the PS history after each photo and it ran better. After I bought a mac, I found that OS does it by itself and I will never go back to pc.

 

Adobe will send you disks for Mac if you sign an affidavit you destroyed the PC version and offer $25. You can not run windows PS on a Mac unless you partition and installt windows. Why buy a Mac then?

 

Other World Computing, OWC, will . also furnish drives and ram a greatly reduced prices.