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i have my m6 and m7, and, for what seemed forever, i waited and waited for the digital m8 to be born. when it finally came, i decided to skip it, because it really didn't deliver on my expectations.

 

then time flew by, and before i realized it, the m9 was here, and it did everything the m8 wouldn't.

 

but i was thinking, since i got this far, and time goes faster and faster the older i get, why not wait for the m10? maybe it will even have really good video??

 

how long would my wait be? should i wait??

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I'll bet the next digi-M will be a rebadged Canon 5Dii, shoehorned into an M-body and complete with HD video, AF and a special tungsten block body.

 

But to the OP, why wait for the M10? If you want a digi-M and have the cash, go for it! If you don't want to spend the money, upgrade your film scanner and buy some more bulk stock. ;)

 

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The only reason to wait for an M10 is to pick up a used M9 at a more affordable price. The full-frame sensor and image quality of the M9 will meet the needs of both print and electronic media for decades.

 

Yes, an M10 might do low light a little better, but I think we're at a point in digital photography where the technology has finally matched up to film.

 

I don't think an M will ever do video. If Leica had any intention of that, they would have stuck it in the X1. Working as a one-man band, I personally find it better to carry separate still and video cameras because I can put the video camera on a tripod to capture the boring B-roll action or long speeches that I need while continuing to shoot more dramatic stills to go with the print article.

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The World is divided into those who get on with life and those who hold back in the hope of something better just around the next corner.

 

Hope is not a strategy - it is an excuse.

 

Get on with it.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

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Yes you should, so leica can get chips that don't crack, other than that no, you should buy a M9 and lose 3000.00 when you sell it at the end of next year when the M10 comes out?

 

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wow, i love the variety of responses here. what an interesting group of people here on leica forum.

 

"tempus fugit"

Tempus fugit is a Latin expression meaning "time flees", more commonly translated as "time flies"

(wikipedia)

 

"Why not wait for the M11? M12? Life's too short. If you want an M9, and can afford it, why wait?"

who said i could afford it? anytime i buy a leica i am buying something i really can't afford, so it's more like a sacrifice. i want to make sure it is the right sacrifice.

 

"I think you'll be waiting a long time before an M has video."

you are probably right, but it would be nice.

 

"But to the OP, why wait for the M10? If you want a digi-M and have the cash, go for it! If you don't want to spend the money, upgrade your film scanner and buy some more bulk stock"

i guess you could say i am digi-curios

 

"I think you answered your own question"

so i guess you are waiting too?

 

"I think the M9 is the M4 gone digital. There's not much to want except a chrome version (which seem to become a reality in 2011 with some luck).

M10 is 3-4-5 years in the future to judge from what was said by Leica at and around Photokina."

what?? no chrome?? forget it, then, the decision is made for me!

 

"The only reason to wait for an M10 is to pick up a used M9 at a more affordable price. The full-frame sensor and image quality of the M9 will meet the needs of both print and electronic media for decades.

Yes, an M10 might do low light a little better, but I think we're at a point in digital photography where the technology has finally matched up to film.

I don't think an M will ever do video. If Leica had any intention of that, they would have stuck it in the X1. Working as a one-man band, I personally find it better to carry separate still and video cameras because I can put the video camera on a tripod to capture the boring B-roll action or long speeches that I need while continuing to shoot more dramatic stills to go with the print article."

better low light would be really nice, otherwise i agree, the camera is pretty much there. they do have video in the little "panasonic/leica" ones, maybe they will learn from canon, it sells cameras. and if you rather have two separate cameras, then get two. one you shoot video with and what you shoot photos with, and they are interchangeable.

 

"The World is divided into those who get on with life and those who hold back in the hope of something better just around the next corner.

Hope is not a strategy - it is an excuse.

Get on with it."

that is usually very good advice, but in the case of the m8, it would have been awful advice.

 

"Yes you should, so leica can get chips that don't crack, other than that no, you should buy a M9 and lose 3000.00 when you sell it at the end of next year when the M10 comes out?"

i think the "wait" group is winning. that cracked chip stuff is scary. sure, they will fix it now, but what if it happens after warranty runs out?

 

thanks all for the insightful advice.

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For $7K, I would like to see a low noise M camera at the film speeds 2500, 3200, and 4000.

 

I'm no engineer, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to be possible using the current CCD sensor in the M9.

 

An option for chrome (black and silver) would be pretty awesome too.

 

Those things said, I'm going to wait.

 

Jay

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M10 is 3-4-5 years in the future to judge from what was said by Leica at and around Photokina.

 

I just had a discussion with a guy from Leica. My interpretation of his comments go into the a.m. time frame. It could very well be that overgaard is spot on.

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Steve

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"he who dies with the most toys wins!"

 

You can shoot a lot of film and pay for scans for the cost of an m9. It will never hold it's value like the film cameras, sure you can tweak the high ISO performance, maybe a silver one will hit the market, and maybe Leica will be swallowed up by some large financially sound photo want-to-be, but in the end - whenever or whatever you buy - you'll wonder why you waited.

Instant image review, virtually unlimited supply of electronic "film", and a host of other reasons that you bought film versions in the first place will assault your skills and your rewards.

 

Sacrifice, hell we all do that (well most of us anyway), is the entry price for pure joy. Try an

M9 as soon as you can get your hands on one, and if you don't like it, you can still sell it - probably at a premium for immediate delivery - and recoup your investment.

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