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Wilson: I am enjoying it immensely, for sculpture it thrashes anything else I've used, I got caught out with IR but because we needed to post some event images for the gallery's facebook/blog etc very soon after the event I converted to B&W having always said I don't have much of a feel for it, I was very pleasantly surprised, even had me thinking that my newbie rangefinder focusing technique accidentally replicated that "zone focusing" look - I have even given it a little work out on my pet landscape type and am reaslly happy with what it can do.

 

ThorkilB: I'd post pictures but with a 2hr drive to the city I'd have to adapt your list of subjects to suit living in the middle of nowhere.

 

Mitchell: pimping your 9 sounds like fun, I'd go for a Holga sticker.

 

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Just stumbled upon this forum & thread the other day and find it quite informative. I'm now in the same boat as well. Coming from an all digital background (Nikon, Canon & Pany m4/3's) and curious about RF. Got the X1 and now lusting for the M's.

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Hi Strobist - join the club - I think anyone in the world comtemplating Leica M Digital is going to stumble across this thread, believe me it can be quite addictive, many of us are now cheerful new owners, so I guess the thread will evolve into "how to make the most of our Ms"

 

Somewhere back in the dim distant past RichardX1 OP mentioned Sean Reid's "Reid's Reviews" its a subscription site but very worth the $35 odd, Leica digital M's, their lenses and most of what you really want to know is there - he also de-mystifies it all very well.

 

I bought a film Medium Format rangefinder pretty cheap on eBay just to see if I could handle the different way of focusing - I liked it so I much that I quickly bought an M8, the lenses you can put on them are to die for. Sure you'll get good results from pany m4/3 using M and older Leica glass but by my way of thinking nothing quite stacks up against the real thing.

 

all the best - Clive

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ThorkilB: I'd post pictures but with a 2hr drive to the city I'd have to adapt your list of subjects to suit living in the middle of nowhere.

 

Mitchell: pimping your 9 sounds like fun, I'd go for a Holga sticker.

 

Clive

Goodmorning (8.08 a.m.) from Copenhagen, Denmark, Europe....

Hi Clive...sounds good you are in/on with this little cozy game (although I know that Rich will be crying for the moderator if its getting all too cosy inside here…:o) ...and the rules could easily be changed, instead of inner city, you could try to get the distillation(/epitome?) of living in nowhere-land, your surroundings, or?...and the café-life could be changed for a lonely gas-station(?).

Then we just have to persuade Mike, Richard, Rob(?) and at least someone more with a M9 to participate...(and those who want to contribute...Nikon D3/Leica M8/Leica M9)

So that we can get inputs from Australia, Holland, Hong Kong..and…?

But Clive I think that you will have to buy a infrared filter for your lense. (I founded out that I can’t put on a filter on my 15mm Voigtländer, so it leave me with my 21 Elmarit..so I would miss the ultra wide if I buy a M8…hhmm)

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Want to make 2k, okay, so seems like a lot of justifying is going on here - own up - how many of you play down cost of all of this to your "other half" - like "it was on sale", "I bought it on eBay." :D This thread is a bit like the Young & The Restless - you can go away for 2 weeks and come back and pick up where you left off.

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Want to make 2k, okay, so seems like a lot of justifying is going on here - own up - how many of you play down cost of all of this to your "other half" - like "it was on sale", "I bought it on eBay." :D This thread is a bit like the Young & The Restless - you can go away for 2 weeks and come back and pick up where you left off.

:p..perhaps I feel quit young, but for my part I aint...and yes considering 2 things: my better half (but I did the cleaning and cooking this weekend...) and not to getting broke too quickly...(in considering M8 instead of M9)

will you participate in the little fotosession?

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I just found this discussion. So much to read... I skipped some pages in the middle, and jumped right to the last three pages.

 

I'm thinking back a year or so, when (after a year's worth of debating it with myself) I got a good deal on an M8.2 just before the M9 came out. I then had a very short time to decide to either send back the 8.2 and pay a good bit more $$ for the 9, or stop where I was. For me, I couldn't think of anything that justified going for the 9.... and wasn't sure that either the 8.2 or the 9 would really substitute for my D3.

 

To me, an "M" is an "M". They all accomplish the same thing, in a way that a DSLR might not be able to. I don't think they're a substitute for a DSLR, and for that matter, I don't think they're a substitute for a P&S either. It all depends.

 

For a lot of things I do, the M is certainly the best camera. The article published in the New Yorker Magazine said in print much of what I felt:

 

A Critic at Large: Candid Camera : The New Yorker

 

I think the most important thing isn't "which M to buy", but to simply get one of them.

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Hi Strobist - join the club - I think anyone in the world comtemplating Leica M Digital is going to stumble across this thread, believe me it can be quite addictive, many of us are now cheerful new owners, so I guess the thread will evolve into "how to make the most of our Ms"

 

Somewhere back in the dim distant past RichardX1 OP mentioned Sean Reid's "Reid's Reviews" its a subscription site but very worth the $35 odd, Leica digital M's, their lenses and most of what you really want to know is there - he also de-mystifies it all very well.

 

I bought a film Medium Format rangefinder pretty cheap on eBay just to see if I could handle the different way of focusing - I liked it so I much that I quickly bought an M8, the lenses you can put on them are to die for. Sure you'll get good results from pany m4/3 using M and older Leica glass but by my way of thinking nothing quite stacks up against the real thing.

 

all the best - Clive

Thanks Clive! I'll check that site out.

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Somewhere back in the dim distant past RichardX1 OP mentioned Sean Reid's "Reid's Reviews" its a subscription site but very worth the $35 odd, Leica digital M's, their lenses and most of what you really want to know is there - he also de-mystifies it all very well.

 

Thanks for mentioning this too Clive! I got the impression I was lonely shouting in the desert. :)

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RichardM8.2: Sean Reid already saved me embarrassment/money, on his site I checked out a Nokton 35/1.2 that I'd thought of buying at auction only to discover it needed modification to work on my 8.

 

Businessasusual - I'm lucky it's one of the great advantages of being a sculptor, a good camera is a necessary tool for me - and when I make good sales I think I deserve to buy myself something quite nice ;-) my partner occasionally mentions that there might be "better" things to spend money on and I think I say "just as well its not cars". I'm very careful you know I even keep my sponsorship of motorsport down the a very manageable level - racing ride-on lawn mowers. Oh yes I've found it much easier if I buy the camera one day and the lens/s on other days never looks half as much as the total cost!!

 

ThorkilB: Good morning its 8 Tuesday morning here.The filter is on its way. I'm happy to interpret your photoshoot rules to my environment.

 

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Good morgen Clive....or rather good evening:). Here its rather dark outside, its 10 p.m.(monday evening), sun went down at 4 p.m. and its 4 degree Celcius..and the leaves were falling down for 10 days ago.....just that you know.

Glad you would join with 3 pictures....then I've have to get out of the feathers from sunday on. But its a long time ago since I walked around alone in the inner part of Copenhagen, (that we have turists for...:rolleyes:), but it can in fact be quit a nice place...

But I dont think we are able to persuade Richard and Mike to join us with 3 booring shots....think they maybe got lost, dont you?

Considering very hard that M8 for 1.750$ (think I gave a wrong figure for some time ago)...

Anyone outthere that know if there is a total-frame-counter in the software in a M8?

I'll take a nap in few ninutes in this part of the world...

Thorkil

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Thats a nice shot Richard! Have only been in Amsterdam once, when I as 18 drove alone through eastern germany, down to Youguslavia before the Balkanwar, in an old VW bus and ended up in Amsterdam, where I primarily sat in Rijksmuseum for a hole week looking at the etchings from Rembrandt, which were beautiful, and ended up at a local resident for christmas evening, which is either the 23 or 22 of december by you? And drow home at our Christmas the 24 of december. But I miss the chanals and the city, although there were too many cars.

:)

ps...and your dof is not too shallow I can see...

morninglight or eveninglight?

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ThorkilB, Hi - I've just had a very interesting little problem, a picture that I took for our "nothing" special camera comparison exercise got so small to fit the forum up-load limit that it was about .25 the size of Richard's picture above and virtually imposible to see, so here's a link to it on my Smugmug site.

 

Life in Cowwarr - Clive Murray-White Australian Sculptor | SmugMug

 

Taken at about 2.00pm very bright sunlight, converted from raw in Lightroom3, M8 + Summicron 50/2 v4 - I took some others at a petrol station and had no trouble converting them to forum upload size, but I'll let you have a look at this one on it's own before putting one of them up.

 

To me this a pretty mind blowing example of what this combo can do.

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Hi Clive!

Thats a nice picture from your forest.

I like the colors, or rather the lack of it. But did you do some post processing?

Sharp and intense and a bit good weird mood over it in a strange sculptures way. One could think there was used some HDR

Then I have to come out of the house in the following week, I guess :rolleyes:, and go to the beloved inner part of Copenhagen and if I can take some nothing-special pictures with that bulky D3, and see the frightened people run-away:)..

Thorkil

(ps...and later I hope we can persuade some others with an M9 to participate (and perhaps mike and Richard))

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