atournas Posted September 25, 2010 Share #1 Â Posted September 25, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I recently added an X1 to my other Leica compacts, yet I can hardy value it as just another compact. I am very happy with the first results. I particularly like the following: Â - The prime Elmarit ASPH, a lens of the M philosophy. - The 36mm focal length, universal and ideal for documentary shots.. - The long-time-proved aspect ratio of 3:2--and just that! - The large CMOS sensor; imagine it along with a Summicron in some future X model. - The sufficient 12MP that won't overload the hard disk; after all, one wouldn't print 20'' by 30'' from an X1. - The VERY usable high ISO's, up to 3200 like a TMZ film. - The color settings, like choosing among color and B&W films. - The LACK of video function--at last, a real camera for photographers! Â I also believe I can understand Leica's decisions as regards some points on X1 that drew complaints. For instance, positioning of a retractable flash unit where a retractable viewfinder could have been placed, as well as the JPEG format and the AA filter, must all target at the casual user/tourist who will never bother to Photoshop extensively. Â Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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phancj Posted September 25, 2010 Share #2  Posted September 25, 2010 I recently added an X1 to my other Leica compacts, yet I can hardy value it as just another compact. I am very happy with the first results. I particularly like the following: - The prime Elmarit ASPH, a lens of the M philosophy. - The 36mm focal length, universal and ideal for documentary shots.. - The long-time-proved aspect ratio of 3:2--and just that! - The large CMOS sensor; imagine it along with a Summicron in some future X model. - The sufficient 12MP that won't overload the hard disk; after all, one wouldn't print 20'' by 30'' from an X1. - The VERY usable high ISO's, up to 3200 like a TMZ film. - The color settings, like choosing among color and B&W films. - The LACK of video function--at last, a real camera for photographers!  I also believe I can understand Leica's decisions as regards some points on X1 that drew complaints. For instance, positioning of a retractable flash unit where a retractable viewfinder could have been placed, as well as the JPEG format and the AA filter, must all target at the casual user/tourist who will never bother to Photoshop extensively.  Paul  Paul, we enjoy this camera tremendously too, so welcome to the community.  And yes, it natural to be excited when you first get hold of it, I did too. Something about this little gem.  Post your photos soon, and enjoy your new toy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardM8 Posted September 25, 2010 Share #3 Â Posted September 25, 2010 as well as the JPEG format and the AA filter, must all target at the casual user/tourist who will never bother to Photoshop extensively. Â Errmm... excuse me?.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinj Posted September 25, 2010 Share #4 Â Posted September 25, 2010 I after all, one wouldn't print 20'' by 30'' from an X1. Â Would be curious to know, why not? After all, you can easily print 20" x 30" from the likes of E-PL1. X1's output is much more capable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick parker Posted September 25, 2010 Share #5 Â Posted September 25, 2010 it's a slow camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted September 25, 2010 Share #6 Â Posted September 25, 2010 You mean it does not export DNG raw for $2000. I don`t know true or not, but totally insane if true. But a $2000 fixed lens camera with a lens that jumps in and out just makes it a very expensive P&S in any case. But if people like it, so be it. Just not for me. Â I would pay maybe $500 of this one with the Leica name, $499 without. Just my opinion of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinj Posted September 26, 2010 Share #7 Â Posted September 26, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I wouldn't pay more than $9.99 for anything that Leica makes, especially for things that have lens jumping in and out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phancj Posted September 26, 2010 Share #8 Â Posted September 26, 2010 No wonder. it's slow and the lens jumps out and there is no raw export. No wonder I saw this camera on discount at $899.95 when the original retail was $2,000. Shame on Leica. Â I heard reports that the M9 is now secretly going for $3,000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
divory Posted September 26, 2010 Share #9 Â Posted September 26, 2010 It is rather better to keep quiet and let people think you know rather than post comments like the last three! Â David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phancj Posted September 26, 2010 Share #10 Â Posted September 26, 2010 David, Â We are X1 users and we like this camera. Just easier to get the naysayers to stop their incessant rants this way. Â Ravinj is probably one of the best X1 users around, check out his photos in the forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted September 27, 2010 Share #11 Â Posted September 27, 2010 What a load of crap this thread is... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk60091 Posted September 27, 2010 Share #12 Â Posted September 27, 2010 What a load of crap this thread is... i think somebody is having a bad monday morning..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinj Posted September 27, 2010 Share #13  Posted September 27, 2010 It is rather better to keep quiet and let people think you know rather than post comments like the last three! David  Were you trying to say something? Or, would you rather follow your own advise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phancj Posted September 28, 2010 Share #14 Â Posted September 28, 2010 Judging from how this thread is going...probably going to be shut soon... Â Deng...deng..deng...Another one that bites the dust... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atournas Posted October 2, 2010 Author Share #15  Posted October 2, 2010 Judging from how this thread is going...probably going to be shut soon... Deng...deng..deng...Another one that bites the dust...  Apologies, I had no intention to initiate a boring thread. In fact, when I listed the good points in X1, I was implying that Leica reminds us that the features of a serious digital camera must still root into the well tested concept of an M.  Thanks for your good words.  Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phancj Posted October 2, 2010 Share #16  Posted October 2, 2010 Apologies, I had no intention to initiate a boring thread. In fact, when I listed the good points in X1, I was implying that Leica reminds us that the features of a serious digital camera must still root into the well tested concept of an M. Thanks for your good words.  Paul  Paul,  Wasnt referring to your thread, so no need for apology. It's not boring either, or maybe all thread are.  was talking about rivalry between some posters, so probably moderators will shut thread down. has happened sometimes in the past...  Have fun posting, do not stop.  Cheers, CJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted October 2, 2010 Share #17  Posted October 2, 2010 No wonder. it's slow and the lens jumps out and there is no raw export. No wonder I saw this camera on discount at $899.95 when the original retail was $2,000. Shame on Leica. I heard reports that the M9 is now secretly going for $3,000.  My X1's lens jumping in and out would make me jump up and down and pull my hair, but not of joy....... Rumors are that M9 users with bad luck had lenses falling off their M9, blame the camera....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phancj Posted October 2, 2010 Share #18 Â Posted October 2, 2010 My X1's lens jumping in and out would make me jump up and down and pull my hair, but not of joy.......Rumors are that M9 users with bad luck had lenses falling off their M9, blame the camera....... Â :p:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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