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[rob_x2004]

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I would have worn my heels down retracing my steps from the very moment that I noticed it was missing.

 

What you meant to say was that you would not have put it on the ground in the first place:rolleyes:.

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[zlatkob]

Well some, but not all of my Canon 'L' lenses have a rubber gasket around the mount - this is not waterproof, merely 'water resistant to some extent' - a very different concept.

For waterproof, one needs an underwater camera.

 

Yes, there are many of L lenses that are not weather resistant (including all of the old ones). But the ones that are described as weather sealed have an O-ring on the mount side, along with some other sealing on the inside. Weather-sealing is not perfect, but it definitely gives some extra protection when shooting in rain, snow and other wet conditions.

[pgk]

But the ones that are described as weather sealed have an O-ring on the mount side, along with some other sealing on the inside.

Well my 50/1.2L has a 'gasket' on the outside of the lens mount, not an 'O' ring. There is a huge difference. "O" rings require compression to compress them against their sealing surfaces, gaskets as used on an 'L' lens do not and therefore are 'splash resistant' at best - gaskets are also used on many waterproof compacts and whilst they are apparently waterproof (I think some quote IP65 or similar) they are tested under very specific conditions.

 

FWIW I have seen a Canon 1D fog up on the inside of the LCD display and stop working (South Georgia) - it dried out and revived ok - despite weather sealing. My D1x of the time survived with plastic bage gaffer taped around it. FWIW I personally apply protection (whether it is taped on plastic bag or full waterproof housing) when shooting in the wet - To date there is no thoroughly waterproof camera that I would trust in wet conditions (compacts excluded) and this most certainly includes Leica M and Canon/Nikon dSLRs. BTW saltwater is deliquescent so needs to be thoroughly removed from the camera and especially sealing surfaces and gaskets or they will not dry out thoroughly and there is a risk of later damage.

[jaapv]

I think the S2 is really waterproof and can even be submerged.

[pgk]

I think the S2 is really waterproof and can even be submerged.

I'll wait for you to try it first:D.

[zlatkob]

I think the S2 is really waterproof and can even be submerged.

 

Seriously? The web site does say "waterproof", but I wonder whether something got lost in translation. Waterproof means you can throw it in the water and swim with it. I would be surprised if that were true. If it isn't true, Leica should consider revising that claim.

 

O-rings or gaskets, whatever they're called, they do offer some degree of extra protection, albeit not perfect and not for underwater. I would prefer that cameras and lenses have some type of weather-sealing, as I sometimes can't choose my shooting conditions. This video of Clay Blackmore shooting in snow is an example of what can be done with a weather-sealed system (and what really should be avoided with a non-weather sealed system): Clay Blackmore

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.....snipped....... This video of Clay Blackmore shooting in snow is an example of what can be done with a weather-sealed system (and what really should be avoided with a non-weather sealed system): Clay Blackmore

 

Life is full of variables.

 

The pic below of an M8 being used in an Antarctic snow storm was taken with an M9. Both were exposed to the environment for many hours and functioned superbly, despite the "non-weather" sealing. The photographers "weather sealing" did suffer in the long run.

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[jaapv]

Seriously? The web site does say "waterproof", but I wonder whether something got lost in translation. Waterproof means you can throw it in the water and swim with it. I would be surprised if that were true. If it isn't true, Leica should consider revising that claim.

 

O-rings or gaskets, whatever they're called, they do offer some degree of extra protection, albeit not perfect and not for underwater. I would prefer that cameras and lenses have some type of weather-sealing, as I sometimes can't choose my shooting conditions. This video of Clay Blackmore shooting in snow is an example of what can be done with a weather-sealed system (and what really should be avoided with a non-weather sealed system): Clay Blackmore

There was an extensive article in LFI on the subject. I believe waterproof is the correct term for the S2, as the camera passed the official tests for the norm.

[photoeclipse]

I'm glad you found your lens - it's a pretty bad feeling when you realize. I have a story a bit similar.

 

A couple of years ago I was in the Mount Rainier national park and (don't ask me how) left my whole camera bag with all my Oly dslr kit (body and five lenses, cards, flash, cash etc) behind me at a waterfall, and just carried one camera and lens with me back to the car. Didn't realize until the next stop - had a bit of a moment there I can tell you - went back and - sure enough, it was gone.

 

Reported it to the ranger who was a lot calmer than I was - "it will turn up because generally folks who visit national parks are higher up on the evolutionary scale".

 

Next day, went back and checked - sure enough, it had been handed in, intact.

 

Don't know what I would have done - it was only partially insured. I no longer have that kit. It was lovely gear but I sold it and now have just one Leica film M and three lenses and some R gear. And now I double and triple check every time I stop.

[mhoersch]

I'm doing a test now. I put a bunch of different lenses in my backyard. I'll report back in a couple of weeks.

 

Great! I'll hold my breath...

[pgk]

There was an extensive article in LFI on the subject. I believe waterproof is the correct term for the S2, as the camera passed the official tests for the norm.

Take a look at: IP Code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for specified definitions of the 'norm'.