dfarkas Posted July 7, 2010 Share #1 Posted July 7, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) New post on my blog about new Summarit-S 35mm f/2.5 ASPH on the S2. David Farkas Photography Blog: Taking the Leica Summarit-S 35mm f/2.5 ASPH and the S2 for a spin around the neighborhood Feedback, comments and questions are welcome. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 Hi dfarkas, Take a look here Taking the Leica Summarit-S 35mm f/2.5 ASPH and the S2 for a spin. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jplomley Posted July 7, 2010 Share #2 Posted July 7, 2010 A stellar lens David. Had one for about three weeks and I was immensely impressed. I really need to start posting some images. There are some here from the 180mm and 70mm: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/landscape-travel/130771-few-s2.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenerrolrd Posted July 7, 2010 Share #3 Posted July 7, 2010 New post on my blog about new Summarit-S 35mm f/2.5 ASPH on the S2. David Farkas Photography Blog: Taking the Leica Summarit-S 35mm f/2.5 ASPH and the S2 for a spin around the neighborhood Feedback, comments and questions are welcome. David David My compliments on the images and your blog. Its a lot easier for me to see the quality of the S2 files when the photographs are made in decent light. I think these are your best work with the S2 and you have nailed the color (IMHO). The images also look substantially better (from a color standpoint ) than the initial tests. I have expected that it would only be a matter of time. Nice work ! Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted July 7, 2010 Share #4 Posted July 7, 2010 Its a lot easier for me to see the quality of the S2 files when the photographs are made in decent light. With all due respect, you cannot make any judgement on 72 ppi web postings. You need to make prints in order to guage the full potential of any system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted July 7, 2010 Author Share #5 Posted July 7, 2010 David My compliments on the images and your blog. Its a lot easier for me to see the quality of the S2 files when the photographs are made in decent light. I think these are your best work with the S2 and you have nailed the color (IMHO). The images also look substantially better (from a color standpoint ) than the initial tests. I have expected that it would only be a matter of time. Nice work ! Roger Thanks Roger. I'm really liking the results from LR. All of the images are straight from LR to JPG. No Photoshop on any of them. Most just using my "standard" S2 preset that I developed. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted July 7, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted July 7, 2010 With all due respect, you cannot make any judgement on 72 ppi web postings. You need to make prints in order to guage the full potential of any system. Jeff, I agree that the proof is in the print! But... sending prints out to hundreds or thousands of people isn't too practical. Instead, I've found providing 100% crops show detail, sharpness, etc. along with the overall color impression from the full low-res shot. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted July 7, 2010 Share #7 Posted July 7, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) David, I'm curious, do you put prints up in your shop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 7, 2010 Share #8 Posted July 7, 2010 With all due respect, you cannot make any judgement on 72 ppi web postings... How is an image's ppi relevant to an image viewed on a screen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenerrolrd Posted July 7, 2010 Share #9 Posted July 7, 2010 With all due respect, you cannot make any judgement on 72 ppi web postings. You need to make prints in order to guage the full potential of any system. Jeff Do you think its possible to make any positive comments about the S2 without getting a lecture? I ve looked at the raw files with david and I ve seen prints ...to date I haven t been happy with the color rendering and these look much better more like my DMR or the M9 . David had a nice variety posted on his blog and I thought this was both helpful and was showing progress in getting the color right. Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted July 7, 2010 Share #10 Posted July 7, 2010 Roger, if you've seen prints than you are golden. In my experience with the system, web postings do not do the camera and lenses justice. Simply too much information is lost in down-sampling for the web. That is the only point I was trying to make. I've made about half a dozen or so 20x30 inch prints from the S2 and 35/70/180mm lenses and I'm blown away with the quality. I have not had any serious issues with color rendering since I end up tweaking things in Lab space anyway. Apologies if my post came across as negative, that was not my intent. As Leica evolve the system, I've no doubt the user base will increase accordingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenerrolrd Posted July 7, 2010 Share #11 Posted July 7, 2010 Roger, if you've seen prints than you are golden. In my experience with the system, web postings do not do the camera and lenses justice. Simply too much information is lost in down-sampling for the web. That is the only point I was trying to make. I've made about half a dozen or so 20x30 inch prints from the S2 and 35/70/180mm lenses and I'm blown away with the quality. I have not had any serious issues with color rendering since I end up tweaking things in Lab space anyway. Apologies if my post came across as negative, that was not my intent. As Leica evolve the system, I've no doubt the user base will increase accordingly. Jeff Fair enough....I am worn out with the S2 bashing (which I see was not your intent). I know David and you are aware he could make a stunning print from Holga negative. I want to hear from testers that are trying to get a good results not produce to an arbitrary set of testing constraints. I think the S2 have been unfairly evaluated because the profiles,presets etc have lagged behind the established competitors. If you followed the introduction of the M8 ..it took the community a while to get great files from C1 or ACR . I realize that a really good printer(processor) can get a great result with the files as is but its nice when they start like a DMR file ..which I have found to be brilliant straight from the camera in any raw processor. . No apology necessary I agree with your observations . I wanted to compliment david as this stuff takes time and we need to appreciate the guys that put it in and share. Looking forward to seeing your S2 stuff..... Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted July 8, 2010 Share #12 Posted July 8, 2010 Cheers Roger, I'm glad we got that sorted. I was wondering if David displayed prints in his shop thinking this might be of potential benefit to customers. Because honestly, until I saw prints from the S2, I was not fully convinced of this cameras output capabilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share #13 Posted July 8, 2010 Cheers Roger, I'm glad we got that sorted. I was wondering if David displayed prints in his shop thinking this might be of potential benefit to customers. Because honestly, until I saw prints from the S2, I was not fully convinced of this cameras output capabilities. Jeff, one of the benefits of having a pro lab in-house is the ease in making large Durst prints. Our lab actually does the photographic printing for Leica in the US. For example, we made the sample prints at the Roadshow events. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowich Posted July 8, 2010 Share #14 Posted July 8, 2010 Jeff, one of the benefits of having a pro lab in-house is the ease in making large Durst prints. Our lab actually does the photographic printing for Leica in the US. For example, we made the sample prints at the Roadshow events. David i picked up the S2 + 70mm + 180mm +35mm yesterday at the leica store vienna. thanks to leica for delivering so fast! the 35mm lens is really sharp to the corners, even wide open. but there is significant color fringing/CA at apertures larger than 4, which cannot fully be corrected by LR3. the lack of a tailored RAW converter is highly apparent peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatkob Posted July 8, 2010 Share #15 Posted July 8, 2010 Toward the end of the post linked above, David describes how he removed the fringes in Lightroom. The examples look excellent. Lightroom is wonderful in so many ways and seems to handle this specific task very nicely. Would a tailored RAW converter really be better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowich Posted July 9, 2010 Share #16 Posted July 9, 2010 Toward the end of the post linked above, David describes how he removed the fringes in Lightroom. The examples look excellent. Lightroom is wonderful in so many ways and seems to handle this specific task very nicely. Would a tailored RAW converter really be better? LR3 can only fix light cases of CA/fringing. it is helpless in more extreme situations. and yes, a dedicated RAW converter would belp a lot. i have never seen such fringing in hassy shots (even with the 100mm f2.2 wide open) when using phocus. peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arif Posted July 10, 2010 Share #17 Posted July 10, 2010 David, Great use of the 35 and very good processing. One of these days I will learn LR and also use the tripod. I have been handholding all my S2 shots. I can't wait to try the 35 but cannot find it anywhere ;( Any chance of mailing me your S2 profile. I made a few but would like to try yours. Thank you, Arif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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