pop Posted June 27, 2010 Share #1 Posted June 27, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is the shop window of what used to be the Swiss Watchmaker's association. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Taken with an LC-1. Thanks in advance for looking and any comments which might occur to you. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Taken with an LC-1. Thanks in advance for looking and any comments which might occur to you. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/124755-union-horlogere/?do=findComment&comment=1363191'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Hi pop, Take a look here Union Horlogere. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
pauledell Posted June 27, 2010 Share #2 Posted June 27, 2010 Philipp, Wonderful composition, colors, lighting and the shadows. Absolutely charming. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haika Posted June 28, 2010 Share #3 Posted June 28, 2010 imho, this is a good example for an image which could benefit a lot from hdr developing. i want to see what's in the window, what's going on behind the display. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share #4 Posted June 30, 2010 Paul and Günter - thank you for commenting. I am not yet up to HDR processing. Also, the single exposure I have of that shop window does not offer much more detail of the interior. Perhaps next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveleo Posted July 3, 2010 Share #5 Posted July 3, 2010 Philipp . . . .neat shot . . . that must be a ventilation grate at the bottom under the window ? i agree with haika about HDR (some of those images are fantastic) . . . . so, Philipp, when you learn how to do it you can teach me . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted July 3, 2010 Dave - I expect the grille to be a small window which allows some light to enter the basement. That would be consistent with the construction of buildings of that era. It does, of course, also serve as a ventilation grille. It's very nice iron work, I think. Dave and Haika - Regarding HDR, I can not make an HDR of that single exposure which I stored in the jpg format only. However, I dug out the the GIMP and had a go at the window of the shop. The D2 does make lovely pictures. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Dave: I used the scissor tool and selected the window (with both the bottom left and right hand side corners rounded). I then applied the color curve tool to give the darker quartile a steeper flank. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Dave: I used the scissor tool and selected the window (with both the bottom left and right hand side corners rounded). I then applied the color curve tool to give the darker quartile a steeper flank. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/124755-union-horlogere/?do=findComment&comment=1368966'>More sharing options...
daveleo Posted July 3, 2010 Share #7 Posted July 3, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) too cool ! . . . . i have to say that #2 works better for me . . . and, i use the GIMP also so i'm glad to see this work out . . . . i checked out true HDR and hmmmm looks like more PP than i want to deal with (though the results are great). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share #8 Posted July 3, 2010 Here's a demonstration of a plugin for the GIMP I've just hunted down in the interweb: advancedtonemapping.scm. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Again, it's not a carefully balanced and applied PP; it's just a demo of a script I've found for this task. It took me all of five seconds to run. Rescaling, compressing and saving it took longer. What it does: it's a tonemapping script. As such, it starts from a single picture (such as the one I had) and recomputes it such that as much as possible of the dynamic range present in the picture will become visible on-screen. In usual parlance, tone mapping is the second part of of the HDR process. the first part consists of "merging" several pictures taken on-site with different exposures. How to use it: locate advancedtonemapping.scm in the internet, load it down. In Ubuntu 10.4, I simply moved the script into /home/philipp/.gimp-2.6/scripts/. Remember to set Nautilus to show hidden files. Open your picture with the GIMP (jpg will do fine). Now comes the really difficult part: my computer has the German language version. In GIMP, I select the menu Filter/Verbessern/Advanced Tone Mapping, and Bob's your uncle. Warning: Do not install unless you are prepared to spend a not-so-small amount of time in front of your computer, trying out those four parameters on your whole collection of photographs. You have been warned. See you next year, then. There's also a step-by-step description how to do the same with the GIMP without a script: gimpaddict - Tone Mapper for Gimp. The description says this: Use this to make your images "pop." Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Again, it's not a carefully balanced and applied PP; it's just a demo of a script I've found for this task. It took me all of five seconds to run. Rescaling, compressing and saving it took longer. What it does: it's a tonemapping script. As such, it starts from a single picture (such as the one I had) and recomputes it such that as much as possible of the dynamic range present in the picture will become visible on-screen. In usual parlance, tone mapping is the second part of of the HDR process. the first part consists of "merging" several pictures taken on-site with different exposures. How to use it: locate advancedtonemapping.scm in the internet, load it down. In Ubuntu 10.4, I simply moved the script into /home/philipp/.gimp-2.6/scripts/. Remember to set Nautilus to show hidden files. Open your picture with the GIMP (jpg will do fine). Now comes the really difficult part: my computer has the German language version. In GIMP, I select the menu Filter/Verbessern/Advanced Tone Mapping, and Bob's your uncle. Warning: Do not install unless you are prepared to spend a not-so-small amount of time in front of your computer, trying out those four parameters on your whole collection of photographs. You have been warned. See you next year, then. There's also a step-by-step description how to do the same with the GIMP without a script: gimpaddict - Tone Mapper for Gimp. The description says this: Use this to make your images "pop." ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/124755-union-horlogere/?do=findComment&comment=1369034'>More sharing options...
daveleo Posted July 4, 2010 Share #9 Posted July 4, 2010 well now, my wife's off to work (on the 4th of July ! ! ), and now i know what i'll hack through all afternoon on the porch here. thanks (i think ?), Philipp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allamande Posted July 5, 2010 Share #10 Posted July 5, 2010 Philipp, Now you got me interested in this, thanks for the link. Of course, first I had to google GIMP! I have a loooong way to go, if I ever get there...But I like your image here and what Dave has done with the bridge. Ece Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share #11 Posted July 5, 2010 Ece - thank you very much for your kind words. If you're not bound to Linux, there appears to be quite a number of programs which do tonemapping. The one I used here was the first I could find and conveniently use on my computer which runs the Linux Operating System. So, if your main interest lies with tonemapping or - indeed - HDR, there might be more options open to you. Still, I think you could do worse than with Linux and the GIMP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allamande Posted July 10, 2010 Share #12 Posted July 10, 2010 Philipp, I am on a Mac. I've got the Gimp and the script but that's it. Can't run the script. Keep getting error messages. Tried to follow the instructions on the wiki where they talk about refresh script business. That doesn't do anything for me. Ece Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share #13 Posted July 11, 2010 Ece, I am not a Mac person at all. However, I placed myself at the serious risk of having to go to bed without dinner by doing a few simple experiments on my wife's iBook. The short version: on her mac the tonemapping script runs quite well if a bit slowly. Here are my statistics: Computer is an elderly iBook G4 with what they call a "Tiger" (10.4.something) On the Tiger, you have to install a utility software called an "X11" before installing the GIMP. As the people of the GIMP point out, the X11 package is on the DVD which you also use to install the Mac OS. If your Mac OS is a bit more modern than mine, X11 might already be installed. The friendly people at the GIMP are quite explicit in recommending that you install the version of X11 which came with your OS and even more explicit about not loading another version you might find in the internet. Next, I downloaded and installed the GIMP (version 2.6.8), in the version prepared for the "Tiger". As you probably know, you open the downloaded package with the "Finder" and move the thing called "GIMP" into the applications folder. I next tested to see if the GIMP actually runs on my wife's iBook. While the verb "to run" is somewhat overstating the case, it actually executes. Patience is called for. It "crawls" but it works. I then downloaded the script I mentioned above advancedtonemapping.scm) and moved it to Regina/Library/Application support/GIMP/scripts. You find the exact path where the GIMP expects its scripts in the menu Edit/Settings (or some such, my Apple speaks German only). That's it. As soon as I start the GIMP, it knows the new script. The new scipts works. It's as fast as a snail in molasses on thisiBook G4. But still, it starts, does something and then finishes. Do not attempt to run this on this iBook while on batteries. Here's the tonemapped pic, from my DMC-LC1. It's called "Trip on a pleasure boat" and partially shows the owner of the iBook I am writing this on, my wife. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Aftertthought: if you show the error messages here, chances are that someone might spot what's wrong. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Aftertthought: if you show the error messages here, chances are that someone might spot what's wrong. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/124755-union-horlogere/?do=findComment&comment=1375725'>More sharing options...
allamande Posted July 12, 2010 Share #14 Posted July 12, 2010 Philipp, It worked!!! I am running Snow Leopard and when I downloaded Gimp, it already had the X11 with it, so no problem there. But, I was getting stuck at the last step; and now your tutorial revealed it all instantly! Thank you so much. It took seconds to run it. Here is a quick try using just default settings (this can use some tinkering with WB etc. But I am going with the raw output here. The shadow detail is impressive, I think): I appreciate the help very much! Ece Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 12, 2010 Author Share #15 Posted July 12, 2010 Ece - I'm so glad that you could make it work. Your sample shows much promise. I'm looking forward to your application of the new toy tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveleo Posted July 12, 2010 Share #16 Posted July 12, 2010 Ece beware . . . Philipp has now "hooked" two of us on this tone-mapping stuff using the GIMP (after haika's initial comment) . . . if i get up the moxie, i may start a thread for folks to post "before & after" images . . . so far, my experience, although addictive, is not getting great results . . . not easy to master. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 12, 2010 Author Share #17 Posted July 12, 2010 Ece beware . . . Philipp has now "hooked" two of us on this tone-mapping stuff Two and a half, by the looks of it. Someone in the German language forum has detected this thread. It is most gratifying if my contributions are useful or at least interesting for others. Dave, splendid idea. Would that be a perennial thread in the Digital Processing forum? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allamande Posted July 13, 2010 Share #18 Posted July 13, 2010 Philipp, Your contributions opened up a whole new path to explore and that's no small matter. You have the makings of a great teacher! Dave, The idea is great, I can see the thread in the photo forum here (under "other" category like the m8 thread that's been going on forever now ) or it could be under digital. Why don't you guys start it? That'll motivate me to experiment on several images that I already slated for GIMP. Thanks again, Philipp, and I'm sure we'll be bugging you with more questions as we go on this journey. Ece Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveleo Posted July 13, 2010 Share #19 Posted July 13, 2010 okay, I took the plunge and opened a thread in the "other" subforum. I was too intimidated looking at the digital postprocessing subforum, as those folks look at least 10 levels above my postprocessing skills . . . . if the mods decide to move it over there, so be it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 13, 2010 Author Share #20 Posted July 13, 2010 Ece, you're too kind. Dave, good show. Thanks for starting the new thread. As you can see, I've left my footstep there, too. Heavy feet ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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