S 35mm

[markowich]

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leica rumors has a link with jpgs taken with the S2/35mm combo. impressive sharpness but a lot of green and purple fringing. of course this could be due to (in camera?) jpg processing or lack of RAW PP or simply an LR issue. could someone with a 35mm lens maybe comment?

thanks, peter

[jplomley]

Peter, I spot no color fringing for DNGs processed out of LR 2.7 with the 35/70/180mm lenses at any aperture.

[markowich]

Peter, I spot no color fringing for DNGs processed out of LR 2.7 with the 35/70/180mm lenses at any aperture.

 

jeff, this is good news. seems the posted pics are out-of-camera-jpgs.

p

[c6gowin]

Jeff, it would be great to see some of your S2/35mm photos from your recent trip. I am hearing good things about the 35mm. I would like to see/hear your thoughts.

[mtomalty]

Jeff

 

I'm now in possession of the same body and 3 lens kit you had last week.

 

I see a very small amount (-8 correction in LR 3) of classic chromatic aberration on the 35mm

but for all intents and purposes is insignificant.

 

That aside, the amount of fine detail that these lenses are capable of rendering is jaw-dropping

for the sharpness junkie.

I've had a lot of experience with various Phase,Hasselblad, and Leaf backs and can certainly say

the Leica experience is second to none.

 

Even shooting the 35 and 70 at the minimum f22 doesn't really show any degradation.

 

I'll be the first to admit that I was,initially, VERY skeptical about Leicas decision to go this route

but am now preparing to eat a huge dose of crow !

 

Although I'm not going to be able to really have time to do much serious shooting we should

get together at some point and compare notes.

 

Jean B. will vouch that I'm not a serial killer.

 

Best,

Mark

 

Mark Tomalty Photography Montreal Canada Travel Landscape Stock FineArt

[Googaliser]

Jeff

 

I'm now in possession of the same body and 3 lens kit you had last week.

 

I see a very small amount (-8 correction in LR 3) of classic chromatic aberration on the 35mm

but for all intents and purposes is insignificant.

 

That aside, the amount of fine detail that these lenses are capable of rendering is jaw-dropping

for the sharpness junkie.

I've had a lot of experience with various Phase,Hasselblad, and Leaf backs and can certainly say

the Leica experience is second to none.

 

Even shooting the 35 and 70 at the minimum f22 doesn't really show any degradation.

 

I'll be the first to admit that I was,initially, VERY skeptical about Leicas decision to go this route

but am now preparing to eat a huge dose of crow !

 

Although I'm not going to be able to really have time to do much serious shooting we should

get together at some point and compare notes.

 

Jean B. will vouch that I'm not a serial killer.

 

Best,

Mark

 

Mark Tomalty Photography Montreal Canada Travel Landscape Stock FineArt

 

Hi - when you say it beats the Leaf/H backs you have used - were any in the 50MP+ bracket ? The H3D-50 is my benchmark (recently sold) - so am very curious - despite this being an incredibly subjective question (but nevertheless another 'data point')

Rgds

[jplomley]

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Even shooting the 35 and 70 at the minimum f22 doesn't really show any degradation.

 

Mark, I completely agree. As my application is landscape photography, I was skeptical about the amount of incurred diffraction I would have to deal with as a result of stopping down. As you know, large format lenses are designed to be optimal in the f/16-f/32 range, while 35mm and MF lenses are typically optimal 2-3 stops from open aperture. This was not my experience at all with the S lenses. From wide open to fully stopped down, each lens delivered incredible resolution. Like yourself, my jaw hit the keyboard with a resounding thud, followed by a few explicatives. There were some scenes that I photographed on both the 4x5 and S2 and once I get my film back from processing, I will be sending those chromes out to West Coast Imaging for drum scanning. For my application, drum scanned RVP-50 is the gold standard, and if the S2 can deliver a reasonable fraction of that quality at 20x30, than I will be satisfied.

 

I see a very small amount (-8 correction in LR 3) of classic chromatic aberration on the 35mm but for all intents and purposes is insignificant.

 

I'll have another look again, but I still have not detected any CA. Perhaps I got lucky in the scenes I was capturing. Good to hear that when present it is easily corrected.

 

Although I'm not going to be able to really have time to do much serious shooting we should get together at some point and compare notes.

 

Absolutely. I've got a list of niggles that I feel could be addressed in FW that I am going to send to Leica for consideration in the next upgrade. I'd like to hear your feedback on those and I'd be interested in hearing your experiences on handling and operation.

[mtomalty]

Hi - when you say it beats the Leaf/H backs you have used - were any in the 50MP+ bracket ? The H3D-50 is my benchmark (recently sold) - so am very curious - despite this being an incredibly subjective question (but nevertheless another 'data point')

Rgds

 

I wouldn't presume to say that any of the equivalent backs, regardless of manufacturer, are

noticeably better or worse than another.

 

For my style of shooting I think the S2 is, ergonomically, the best medium format camera I've

ever used or owned with the possible exception of the Mamiya 7 (again, for my taste and styel).

 

The viewfinder is crisper than anything that Phase or Hasselblad currently offers.

 

The 'largest' back I've used is the Phase P40+ but haven't tried the top near full frames

from either Phase or Hasselblad so can't comment on them.

 

As you said, most of this is subjective but, suffice to say, I was far more impressed that I

expected to be with the S2 and first 3 lenses.

 

Mark