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...... that I was waiting for the macro lense. But the 70mm turns out to be no slouch. No extension tubes, no close up filters, three shots stacked in Helicon, cropped and down-rezzed for the web.

 

The full size is stunning. Liparus glabrirostris on butterbur, if anyone is interested

 

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Oustanding photo. As a matter of scale, what is the size of the bug in real life and how much of a crop? I have been very pleased with the close focus of the 70mm, but I haven't done anything near as nice as your latest photo.

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And this time the 180 with a +3 dioptre achromatic. The lack of sharpness is the down-rezzing. No fill flash, natural light, ISO 160. This is starting to get very interesting. Again, a significant crop.

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Liparus glabrirostris on butterbur, if anyone is interested

 

Do you recommend frying or steaming them?

 

Seriously, great image, what sort of reproduction ratio does the 70mm allow you to get down to and does the lens get in the way of lighting - how did you light this shot?

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Do you recommend frying or steaming them?

 

Seriously, great image, what sort of reproduction ratio does the 70mm allow you to get down to and does the lens get in the way of lighting - how did you light this shot?

 

Mark,

 

Tripod mounted and natural light, ISO 160. I'll post the full size image tonight. It was about as close as I could get so you can see the ratio - my guess is about 12:1 (or is that 1:12).

 

With the +3 dioptre on the 180 it is down to something close to 5:1 and I was about 25 cm from the fly.

 

If anyone is vaguely interested, and assuming it stops raining at some point in the next week, I will try to do some side-by-side comparisons with the D3X - to keep it a fair comparison I guess the Zeiss 100 Makro (my all time, love of a lifetime lense) is going to be best.

 

I put a couple of shots up on Nikonians with this combination over the weekend. It can be stunning and I am very interested to see what happens in a shoot off.

 

I can see I'm going to be getting the machine shop to start on some S extension tubes!

 

 

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I would certainly be interested in seeing a comparison with the D3x and a lens specifically computed for macro work.

 

I've toyed with the idea of a Leica R 100mm macro with a Nikon mount but the Zeiss is clearly a comparable alternative, both likely better than the Nikon 105mm which is good enough but doesn't reach the heights of the other two.

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Here is the non-cropped version.

 

And just for fun, what the S2 has to compete with in the D3X/Zeiss 100 arena.

 

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Here is the non-cropped version.

 

And just for fun, what the S2 has to compete with in the D3X/Zeiss 100 arena.

 

Ed

 

 

sharpness and resolution wise the nikon is doing well. but the bokeh of the zeiss lens is very nervous.

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sharpness and resolution wise the nikon is doing well. but the bokeh of the zeiss lens is very nervous.

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Peter,

 

To be fair this was with extension tubes and a very shallow depth of field. The bokeh is normally gorgeous. I was using kenko tubes which are a tiny bit wobbly :) and must get round to getting a PN-11. Bellows just don't work for me in the field.

 

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Peter,

 

To be fair this was with extension tubes and a very shallow depth of field. The bokeh is normally gorgeous. I was using kenko tubes which are a tiny bit wobbly :) and must get round to getting a PN-11. Bellows just don't work for me in the field.

 

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good to hear!

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Do you recommend frying or steaming them?

 

Seriously, great image, what sort of reproduction ratio does the 70mm allow you to get down to and does the lens get in the way of lighting - how did you light this shot?

 

Mark,

 

The 70mm Summarit-S has a reproduction ratio of 1:47 with a minimum focus distance of 0.5m.

 

The 120mm APO-Macro-Summarit-S has a minimum focus distance of 0.57m resulting in a reproduction ratio of 1:2.

 

So, while the 70mm isn't exactly a macro lens, it does focus pretty close and works nicely in the close-focus range (in part due to the floating element design).

 

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Mark,

 

The 70mm Summarit-S has a reproduction ratio of 1:47 with a minimum focus distance of 0.5m.

 

The 120mm APO-Macro-Summarit-S has a minimum focus distance of 0.57m resulting in a reproduction ratio of 1:2.

 

So, while the 70mm isn't exactly a macro lens, it does focus pretty close and works nicely in the close-focus range (in part due to the floating element design).

 

David

 

Thanks David,

 

Saved me looking it up

 

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Mark,

 

The 70mm Summarit-S has a reproduction ratio of 1:47 with a minimum focus distance of 0.5m.

 

The 120mm APO-Macro-Summarit-S has a minimum focus distance of 0.57m resulting in a reproduction ratio of 1:2.

 

So, while the 70mm isn't exactly a macro lens, it does focus pretty close and works nicely in the close-focus range (in part due to the floating element design).

 

David

 

David, not to be picky, but don't you mean 1:4.7?

 

BTW fellows, great shots. There's a set by xpixels (on another site ). that is similarly impressive at close focus; LOTS of charater and depth (visual). This is a characteristic of the DMR, M8/9 and now the S2 (and, BTW was also in the venerable Digilux 2; my wife has an I am continually impressed.

It is either the raw handling plus Leica lenses, or there is some magic sauce Leica has dreamed up that create this IQ, and IQ that has a 'draw' It may be the discriminant that puts the S2 ahead of other 40MP cameras, and may be important to some, more than the MP count.

 

I would be curious if anyone thinks this can be accomplished in post with other cameras - I would venture not, certainly not without creating artifacts and some of the wierd colors David has mentioned.

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David, not to be picky, but don't you mean 1:4.7?

 

BTW fellows, great shots. There's a set by xpixels (on another site ). that is similarly impressive at close focus; LOTS of charater and depth (visual). This is a characteristic of the DMR, M8/9 and now the S2 (and, BTW was also in the venerable Digilux 2; my wife has an I am continually impressed.

It is either the raw handling plus Leica lenses, or there is some magic sauce Leica has dreamed up that create this IQ, and IQ that has a 'draw' It may be the discriminant that puts the S2 ahead of other 40MP cameras, and may be important to some, more than the MP count.

 

I would be curious if anyone thinks this can be accomplished in post with other cameras - I would venture not, certainly not without creating artifacts and some of the wierd colors David has mentioned.

 

Thanks Victor. My bad. I did mean 1:4.7.

 

I agree with you. The S2 files have a realness and depth to them that feels both natural and rich, rather than flat and digital. Just as our favorite films of the past lent a certain look (not necessarily neutral) the S2 gives a very pleasing result out of camera. I'm quite sure that this was tweaked purposely by Leica digital engineers. The lenses don't hurt either. ;)

 

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Ed

 

Just curious.

 

After seeing the uncropped image, why did you have to stack 3 frames in Helicon to

achieve sufficient depth of field ?

 

Below is a link to a series of insects I have been working on when opportunity presents itself

All shot live and all returned to place of capture

 

Mark Tomalty Photography Montreal Canada Travel Landscape Stock FineArt

 

The following link is to a video showing a macro 'master' at work.

Not Leica content but info that can be applied across platforms

 

Strobist: Lighting Bugs, With Layers of Genius

 

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Mark,

 

Actually it was force of habit. ¨The three that I stacked were the three following the full frame that I posted. It was only when I went back to look at that first image that I realised that I had the depth of field I needed.

 

Fantastic website ...something to aspite to.

 

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