Jeff S Posted May 9, 2010 Share #1 Posted May 9, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) S2, part 1 Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 Hi Jeff S, Take a look here Puts' thoughts on the S2. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
markowich Posted May 10, 2010 Share #2 Posted May 10, 2010 S2, part 1 Jeff i am very curious about the 'D3x beats IQ of H3DII39' part. peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoersch Posted May 10, 2010 Share #3 Posted May 10, 2010 After reading that Puts thinks Henri Cartier-Bresson and Ansel Adams both use the same approch to photography I lost interest in reading on. Somewhat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 10, 2010 Share #4 Posted May 10, 2010 In a way he is right - they were both financially independent and could choose their own path. There is a slight difference in style, though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmobile Posted May 10, 2010 Share #5 Posted May 10, 2010 What sort of photographer would allow mere finances to get in the way? Most serious amateurs are in complete denial about having a real job All those royalties, once recognised after death, make the lack of an inheritance to pass onto the children worthwhile Seriously, Puts' ranking the D3X ahead of the Hassy has me curious, but then again he is likely to have had some very bizarre reasoning that makes perfect sense to him (and possibly only him). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 10, 2010 Share #6 Posted May 10, 2010 The S2 has been designed for the pre-visualization approach. The creative process starts already before the picture is taken. The selection of ISO speed, exposure measuring method, exposure compensation, exposure mode is made based to match and support this process. You select these settings before the shooting and when the photographer is engaged in the creative process the camera is a full extension of his intentions. . Can anybody explain to me what this means? Does it come with sports viewfinder and a handheld exposure meter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted May 10, 2010 Share #7 Posted May 10, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Can anybody explain to me what this means? You know what you want before you pick up the camera. Not sure what makes the S2 different from any other camera though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 10, 2010 Share #8 Posted May 10, 2010 That was what I meant. In which sense is an S2 different from a Holga in this respect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted May 10, 2010 Share #9 Posted May 10, 2010 Hmm - ranking S2, D3X, H3D39 - sorry but I cannot believe this ranking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Sadov Posted May 10, 2010 Share #10 Posted May 10, 2010 Maybe his point is that S2 is not exactly like a 35mm DSLR as it imposes a lot more constraints on you as a photographer. This is a combination of a limited lens selection and just the higher requirements on the amount of light. I mean, think D3x with 70-200 VRII vs S2 with 180mm. You'll probably want a tripod for S2. Of course, then one rationalize this inconvenience away as S2 being "designed for the pre-visualization approach" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 10, 2010 Share #11 Posted May 10, 2010 Yes - but that would be valid for any medium format camera or even more so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted May 10, 2010 Share #12 Posted May 10, 2010 Hmm - ranking S2, D3X, H3D39 - sorry but I cannot believe this ranking. What don't you believe Peter? Puts thinks the S2 is better than the D3x? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constable Posted May 10, 2010 Share #13 Posted May 10, 2010 Can anybody explain to me what this means? Does it come with sports viewfinder and a handheld exposure meter? Oh. I thought it was just me that didn't understand that! Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted May 10, 2010 Share #14 Posted May 10, 2010 What don't you believe Peter? Puts thinks the S2 is better than the D3x? That the H3D39 is worse than the D3X and the S2. Other way round would be appropriate - I am shooting a H3D39 and can compare .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowich Posted May 10, 2010 Share #15 Posted May 10, 2010 That the H3D39 is worse than the D3X and the S2. Other way round would be appropriate - I am shooting a H3D39 and can compare .... i think the IQ contest here is between H3DII39 and S2. if other issues are factored in things of course change. peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted May 10, 2010 Share #16 Posted May 10, 2010 i think the IQ contest here is between H3DII39 and S2. if other issues are factored in things of course change.peter Right - agreed! My main concern is that Leica has nothing like Phocus, which makes the IQ of H cameras really shine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constable Posted May 10, 2010 Share #17 Posted May 10, 2010 Right - agreed! My main concern is that Leica has nothing like Phocus, which makes the IQ of H cameras really shine. So down to software? Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted May 10, 2010 Share #18 Posted May 10, 2010 So down to software? Ed For me SW is an essential part - yes. I am aware that others may see that differently, but all my experience tells me that great cameras with perfect designed glass and SW which is specially tailored for these systems are the real winners. No doubt for me that this is true for Hasselblad, I would say Leica will have to go some distance here but I am sure they will arrive there as well. The latest results I have seen from the S2 and the newest FW in combination with LR are very promising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowich Posted May 10, 2010 Share #19 Posted May 10, 2010 For me SW is an essential part - yes. I am aware that others may see that differently, but all my experience tells me that great cameras with perfect designed glass and SW which is specially tailored for these systems are the real winners. No doubt for me that this is true for Hasselblad, I would say Leica will have to go some distance here but I am sure they will arrive there as well. The latest results I have seen from the S2 and the newest FW in combination with LR are very promising. Phocus is indeed excellent. hasselblad was blamed by many for doing software correction for HCD lenses. but leica does it for a whole camera system: the M9. even worse, hasselblad allows the user to turn off or tune those corrections while leica does them firmware based in camera. and still worse, leica did not yet manage to eliminate lens defects for their ultra-wide angles....red shifts etc. anyway, the S system is still far away from, say, an equivalent of the HCD 28mm. once it is there we can restart the discussion. today hasselblad offers <n excellent system and leica two lenses only. what is there to compare? peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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