dkCambridgeshire Posted April 10, 2010 Share #1 Posted April 10, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've read a few posts recently from Leica owners worried about their cameras getting scratched or worn in use plus one current thread asking about wear to strap lugs - but does it really matter that much as long as the camera keeps working? One of the most attractive Leica M bodies I ever saw was a black paint M4 with much of the paint and the vulcanite showing good honest WABI consistent with years of heavy use. I do not have such a camera myself but am wondering if any forum members would consider posting some photos of their "really really cosmetically worn" Leica bodies ... just to show that such cameras have a charm all of their own ... and to prove that they have survived as good working "users" with years of life left in them. ... And to show the "worried I might scratch it" brigade that it really matters little if they do (scratch it :-) ) Cheers dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dkCambridgeshire Posted April 10, 2010 Author Share #2 Posted April 10, 2010 If some forum members could see the state of certain rare and scarce Rolex Submariner and Comex dive watches with badly corroded dials and hands and worn cases which sell for tens of thousands of $$ they would realise that scratch free condition does not always matter. dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron (Netherlands) Posted April 11, 2010 Share #3 Posted April 11, 2010 This one sold very recently for Euro 38.000 (Stockholm auction) - not because of the user state, but its rarity. IMHO non-rare leica's only keep up their value if they are unscratched... Leica MP-36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted April 11, 2010 Author Share #4 Posted April 11, 2010 Yes the worn paint has charisma - but the vulcanite looks remarkably unscathed? dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted April 11, 2010 Share #5 Posted April 11, 2010 What in the name of Oskar is "WABI"...?! Even Gooooooooooooogle doesn't help. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted April 11, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted April 11, 2010 What in the name of Oskar is "WABI"...?! Even Gooooooooooooogle doesn't help. Regards, Bill WABI is a word of Japanese origin frequently used by watch collectors to describe good honest wear - particularly for 'tool watches' eg dive watches which have seen a lot of action. WABI is used in watch collecting circles to convey a sense of imperfect beauty. http://www.gmtplusnine.com/2007/10/18/wabi-and-japanese-watches-a-gmt9-x-g-peopleland-collaboration/ Cheers dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 11, 2010 Share #7 Posted April 11, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) What's wrong with simply saying wear, or patina as with antiques. My cameras are all used with signs of use, wear, patina but are not so battered that it would show much in a photo - point being there's no need to be anal worrying about usual useage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted April 11, 2010 Author Share #8 Posted April 11, 2010 What's wrong with simply saying wear, or patina as with antiques. My cameras are all used with signs of use, wear, patina but are not so battered that it would show much in a photo - point being there's no need to be anal worrying about usual useage. Nothing wrong at all. But I expect there are a few watch collectors on this forum who understand the term WABI which is in general usage on watch collectors' fora. dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstotler Posted April 11, 2010 Share #9 Posted April 11, 2010 Nothing wrong at all. But I expect there are a few watch collectors on this forum who understand the term WABI which is in general usage on watch collectors' fora. dunk Nice. Like "bokeh." Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted April 11, 2010 Share #10 Posted April 11, 2010 I'm not a watch collector... Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted April 11, 2010 Share #11 Posted April 11, 2010 What in the name of Oskar is "WABI"...?! Even Gooooooooooooogle doesn't help. Regards, Bill Not a character in Star Wars then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted April 11, 2010 Share #12 Posted April 11, 2010 To be honest, I thought it was a sauce, John... Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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