Wow - black and white!

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Julian, I completely agree... I have spent so much time creating black and whites with tedious workflows in CS, when I should have just shot them like that... I just recently got an M6 and am blown away by TriX. On your recommendation I just picked up some bw400cn. Can't wait.

 

Now I'm exploring this I am starting to wonder why I have previously sat at my computer trying to create a 'black and white conversion' from my digital files when I could just have shot the photograph using a roll of black and white film in the first place!! (Said slightly tongue in cheek because I know why I have previously used digital but it does make me think!)

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[E.M]

I never crop my pictures , but I think with an M camera it is sometimes needed to crop some of the outer borders , because the framelines are not 100% correct . There is a difference when you focus close by or far away . I think you use the outer part of the framelines when nearby and the inner when far away .

 

Before I used Nikon F-series cameras a lot , because of the 100% viewfinder . I still use them from time to time , wonderful cameras , especially the older mechanical ones .

 

I think Elliot Erwitt once said : " I try not to crop my pictures , but it is not a religion. "

Beautifully said , innit ?

 

Etienne Michiels

[Julian Thompson]

On your recommendation I just picked up some bw400cn

 

 

I can feel the pressure !

[Michael Hiles]

Different strokes....not right or wrong.

 

Jeff

 

Absolutely. My dogma works well for me, and I am happy to share it. No desire to promote it.

[Guest JoanMarianne]

Or, as Terence said, some time before 159BC: "So many men, so many opinions: each has his own correct way."

[Guest JoanMarianne]

Oh; and here's an example of "unacceptable" cropping......I only had one lens, 35mm and the dogs were distracting me. Will try harder in future. Film, by the way, was Ektar 100, which I don't usually use but was trying out at the time. I just had the feeling that half-conceaned in that landscape was something suggestive of the Arthurian Legend/Dark Ages; the kind of topography that a knight on the Grail Quest might have seen. Was there a damsel in distress awaiting rescue, just around that bend in the river?

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Hi Joan

 

Less of this cropping - i'd a cropped it different - how is the lux behaving?

 

Noel

[Guest JoanMarianne]

The Summilux is delightful to use and produces excellent, dsitinctive results, thanks. Definitely a good choice when going out with just one lens. For this particular shot I suppose I ought to go back with a 90mm, but things are never the same as the first magic moment when a scene forces its attention on you.

 

PS: spot the spellling mistake in my previous entry: I meant to write "half-concealed"! Dreaming about Arthurian knights distracted me.

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Hi Joan

 

Thanks for progress report, I like mine as well.

 

Even if you are gonna 'cut down the trees', in a manner of speaking, I would have left (all) the road in as it and the river provide a depth to the image. But these things are subjective as not every one uses the same scan pattern.

 

Noel

[Guest JoanMarianne]

Thanks Noel. I cut the picture right down to below the tree line initially for the prosaic reason of the sky being completely featureless, the river and track being the key elements; then I noticed that the consequent sombre, almost claustrophobic look fitted in with the Dark Ages theme: what my imaginary Grail Knight might have seen through the visor of his helmet. I hasten to confess that I might be taking this Arthurian thing a bit too far! I'ts just a picture. I will go back and re-shoot it; it's only about 20 miles away.

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Meanwhile - and I don't want to hog this thread - but it is about film/mono, so may I interject a final query, .

 

I have been looking for a yellow or green Series VII filter for my 35mm Summilux but there are none available at the moment so I bought the only one that was - Orange. Does anyone have any views on its use in landscape photography? I think it may lack subtlety in some situations.

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Hi Joan

 

If you go to a shop with lots of 2nd hand filters for sale then some 48mm or 49mm filters may fit in the hood reasonably well, e.g. the olympus 49mm filoters do, Ive looked I don't have any series VII so must be doing this.

 

But I normally blue tack in a 39mm, use an elastic band in the lens hood grouve, and a cron type IV hood.

 

A deep orange is black skies, a light or medium yellow is all I use, but it also depends on the film as some are not full pans and others are almost IR films.

 

Noel