plasticman Posted February 19, 2010 Share #1 Posted February 19, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just want to know what sort of results to expect from using the 28 Elmarit pre-ASPH with filters but without coding? Anyone have any experience of this combination, with examples? Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Printmaker Posted February 20, 2010 Share #2 Posted February 20, 2010 With a 28, you will either have to not use a filter or use a filter and code the lens. You can just use a sharpie pen and a $5 template or a $75 coder. If it is a type IV (46mm filters), you can have Leica or DAG code the lens. I've found that you get by without coding a 35 and up and use filters but, if you are super critical, you'll want to code your 35s. Filters and coding are not mandatory but you will get magenta blacks when shooting people wearing plastic clothing and some foliage shifts hue. I never found the foliage hue shift all that objectionable but some do. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted February 20, 2010 Share #3 Posted February 20, 2010 I used the v.3 28mm Elmarit (the one I mentioned in my "In praise of the Mandler lenses" thread), with no coding, with IR filters, for most of the time I owned M8s. The occasional cyan tinge on the edges was minimal and rarely a problem for me. I don't know if the same applies to the v.4 (more compact E46) pre-ASPH Elmarit. The v.3 has a more cyan-ny color rendering overall (part of why I like it) so perhaps that helped mask the drift. A couple of samples - one with complex subject matter/color, where the cyan drift is not very noticeable, and one "worst case" sample with very neutral colors across the whole frame, where it shows a bit more, especially in the sidewalk Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/113108-anyone-using-28-elmarit-pre-asph-without-coding/?do=findComment&comment=1232059'>More sharing options...
ho_co Posted February 20, 2010 Share #4 Posted February 20, 2010 plastic, I don't know the version number of my pre-aspheric 28/2.8. It's the first one that could be used with metering on the M5, so it's probably version II. Leica can't code it because of the screw location in the mount. My experience with the lens on the M8 was awful. I don't remember the details, but I found the combination unusable. I didn't try hand-coding, just tried it uncoded and was very disappointed. If I get a chance to re-test, I'll post the results here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 20, 2010 Share #5 Posted February 20, 2010 I have 2 28 2,8 pre-asph: - one is a sort of collectible, the very first version, 9 elements, made in Wetzlar : fine item to have, but really no good performer onto M8 : unsharp, flares like an old Summilux 35 when wide open, and (like the SA 21) metering is not correct on M8; to forget for use, so I didn't take the E48 UVIR it would need; the old Summaron 5,6 is better. - the other is the "Mandler" version III, E 49 with s/n on the barrell : all another world, an excellent lens even in comparision with the Elmarit 24 asph; I used it uncoded and with UVIR filter and didn't notice appreciable color fringing at edges (as usual, crop factor of M8 is helping). I tried to code it manually but first results were unsatisfactory (used a enamel which tended to disappear quickly) : anyway, it can be done better than I did... ... I abandoned the coding issue for I took a coded 24 Elmarit asph... superb lens that made me forget the 28... maybe if I'll take a M9 I'll reconsider it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted February 20, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted February 20, 2010 Thanks all for your help. The 28 Elmarit is becoming something of a saga for me now: I missed one here in the classifieds and then tried to buy one from another member here, but was in the meantime offered a supposedly mint example in Sweden - which wasn't. I then found a very nice example at another online store, where it was in the process of being serviced - but it came back from that with a newly discovered fault. I then found yet another 'mint-' lens at an online London store, but none of my mails were answered until I got through to them on the phone - only to be told that the lens had just been sold... Oh well, the hunt is all part of the fun... I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbac Posted February 20, 2010 Share #7 Posted February 20, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, I do have a version IV (not coded) which is (I think) really outstanding on the M8. I have experienced the cyan corners in pictures with snow, so I hesitate having it coded. Here is a shot with UV/IR filter: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/113108-anyone-using-28-elmarit-pre-asph-without-coding/?do=findComment&comment=1232750'>More sharing options...
plasticman Posted February 20, 2010 Author Share #8 Posted February 20, 2010 Awesome image! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted February 20, 2010 Share #9 Posted February 20, 2010 +1 or is it veiling flare? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share #10 Posted February 21, 2010 Well I finally found and bought a supposedly 'like new' boxed version-IV from a dealer in Germany. Looking forward to getting it this week! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 21, 2010 Share #11 Posted February 21, 2010 Optimal choice, I think... I seem to remember that v. IV is even factory-codable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbac Posted February 21, 2010 Share #12 Posted February 21, 2010 Yes, great choice! The lens is compact but the hood is huge. And regarding coding, I found a shop here in France that can do it but for 150 euros! I don't know if it would cost less in Solms nor if the cost is the same for every lens but, compared to the price I paid for the lens, it is not negligible. Anyway, this is a great lens, you won't regret buying it. And please post a sample! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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