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Another X1 review & comparison, this time with the Ricoh GXR

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felipe-m

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What do you suppose it says? :D

 

 

In sum, it is actually not very flattering for the X1, nothing strictly new and the usual positives of high IQ, small size, good handling, etc. but they also do pounce on every potential issue: lack of flexibility and Interchangeable lenses, slow AF, cumbersome MF made worse by low res screen, no macro, unreasonable price (even including the LR license), no video...

 

The Ricoh is not spared either, but it comes out with less knocks...

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"The fact that the Leica X1 a macro mode is missing is a real shortcoming. A Ricoh GXR and the A12-fixed focal length you can shoot subjects from seven centimeters distance, go for the X1 must be at least 30 centimeters distance."

 

Wait, 30 centimeters is pretty good for a Leica! lol.

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Here is a link for a translation of the review in English Google Translate

 

Stewart Weir

 

The Leica X1 Files

 

Google translate is always good for a laugh. "The German noble peasant Leica camera delivers the X1 compact camera....Nevertheless, the luxury of no use as a universal Dwarfs cameras...."

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A German magazine prefers the GXR over a Leica! Quite something.

 

The author says that even though he was full of anticipation for the X1, that anticipation rapidly dissipated once he started using it. But he goes on to say the GXR's autofocus is a pain, and one often has to focus the camera manually, particularly in low light.

 

He prefers the Ricoh's menus and joystick to the X1's buttons and knobs because they're too easy to move accidentally.

 

He really gets turned on by the GXR's higher-resolution screen and its 50mm equivalent lens. And he specifically mentions the Ricoh's bokeh, which he says is "wunderschön." :rolleyes:

 

The author feels the inclusion of Lightroom is a big plus for the Leica. Before the arrival of the X1, he used Aperture. But when he installed Lightroom, he found it quicker and more versatile than his previous choice.

 

He says both cameras are expensive and even if you buy the Ricoh, since it's so slow you'll also have to buy a second camera just to be ready to shoot.

 

Not a ringing endorsement for the Ricoh, but he's far more impressed by it than by the X1:

 

Die Ricoh GXR mit der Festbrennweite ist eine tolle Kamera. Der subjektive Eindruck: Anders als bei der Leica X1 hatte ich Lust, mit der Ricoh lange herumzulaufen und zu fotografieren.

(my translation-->) "The Ricoh GXR with fixed focal length is a great camera. Subjective impression: Unlike with the Leica X1, with the Ricoh I wanted to keep running around and shooting pictures."

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The author says that even though he was full of anticipation for the X1, that anticipation rapidly dissipated once he started using it. But he goes on to say the GXR's autofocus is a pain, and one often has to focus the camera manually, particularly in low light.

 

He prefers the Ricoh's menus and joystick to the X1's buttons and knobs because they're too easy to move accidentally.

 

He really gets turned on by the GXR's higher-resolution screen and its 50mm equivalent lens. And he specifically mentions the Ricoh's bokeh, which he says is "wunderschön." :rolleyes:

 

The author feels the inclusion of Lightroom is a big plus for the Leica. Before the arrival of the X1, he used Aperture. But when he installed Lightroom, he found it quicker and more versatile than his previous choice.

 

He says both cameras are expensive and even if you buy the Ricoh, since it's so slow you'll also have to buy a second camera just to be ready to shoot.

 

Not a ringing endorsement for the Ricoh, but he's far more impressed by it than by the X1:

 

 

(my translation-->) "The Ricoh GXR with fixed focal length is a great camera. Subjective impression: Unlike with the Leica X1, with the Ricoh I wanted to keep running around and shooting pictures."

 

Agree, though he even doesn't even bother to learn about snap focus or zone focus functionality of the GXR. Now in the USA, the price difference between these to premium options is substantial, USD, 1100 for the Ricoh and USD 2000 for the X1. Grip, faster lens with integrated lens shade, macro and metal build, all included in the Japanese offering.

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While we're waiting for the X1, not much written about the new Olympus E-PL1 yet but could be impressed with the potential image quality. It has the same size sensor as the Olympus DSLR's. Another competitor to the X1 and Ricoh?

 

Perhaps some of the menu options are a little gimicky for my liking but I am curious to see some images. Someone at dpreview tried the camera and was pretty impressed.

 

Here's the Olmypus site:

 

E-PL1

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While we're waiting for the X1, not much written about the new Olympus E-PL1 yet but could be impressed with the potential image quality. It has the same size sensor as the Olympus DSLR's. Another competitor to the X1 and Ricoh?

 

The E-P1/E-P2 and GF-1 could be competitors, but this is too low end IMHO since its focus is more of being a P&S than the rest.

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The E-P1/E-P2 and GF-1 could be competitors, but this is too low end IMHO since its focus is more of being a P&S than the rest.

 

I don't disagree but image quality probably has promise. I'll admit being partial to Leica but my criteria for my second camera is image quality, something to fit in my pocket or take up little room in a bag. I hope the X1 warts aren't all that bad for me but won't know until I get one.

 

I'm sticking with the X1 but might as well keep researching while waiting. If I were to go to Plan B, as much as the Ricoh GXR impresses, the 800 pound gorilla in the room for me is propriertary lenses from a rather small camera company. Not sure I want to invest in lenses (and I will) that goes south in a few years. Not being able to change lenses on the X1 is appealing to me. I'd rather only own one set of lenses and have checked that off my list with the M8.

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I see JP... I just feel the E-P1 is better and can be bought for the same price as this new one used. The GF-1 and EP-1/2 are just really nice cameras to be honest... I took a 180 degree turn on them. If the X1 never came out, I'd be ok with just these. I just wish they were a little more standard with there dials, but you get over that.

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