vic vic Posted December 11, 2006 Share #21 Posted December 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) the 3rd photo is fantastic. irakli shanidze hi... sechartvelodan har??? saidam?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 Hi vic vic, Take a look here M8 in Siberia, Plus new ACR WB technique . I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Irakly Shanidze Posted December 11, 2006 Share #22 Posted December 11, 2006 Here is an example of stretching camera capabilities to its limits. Shot during a fashion show, 1 sec exposure, handheld. Second picture - multiple halogen spots mixed with day light. Both photos: 2.8/28 Zeiss Biogon ZM (courtesy of fotografz) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/11092-m8-in-siberia-plus-new-acr-wb-technique/?do=findComment&comment=116091'>More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted December 12, 2006 Share #23 Posted December 12, 2006 This is perhaps the most impossible situation for the camera to handle: extremely low light, underexposure and a critically warm light source. Similar result can be achieved on color negative film by introducing a worm wash between developer and bleach-fix baths. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/11092-m8-in-siberia-plus-new-acr-wb-technique/?do=findComment&comment=116288'>More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted December 12, 2006 Share #24 Posted December 12, 2006 The first image was shot with a studio flash, so it does not really show any camera capabiliteis except maybe that it makes you fly. Marc's 2.8/28 Biogon helped fly better. The second picture is a classic leica low-light shot with a split-second timing. 1.4/50 Summilux wide open. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/11092-m8-in-siberia-plus-new-acr-wb-technique/?do=findComment&comment=116896'>More sharing options...
andybarton Posted December 12, 2006 Share #25 Posted December 12, 2006 The ACR Calibration trick doesn't work on a Mac, btw. The only camera profile I have to choose from is "Embedded". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted December 12, 2006 Share #26 Posted December 12, 2006 The ACR Calibration trick doesn't work on a Mac, btw. The only camera profile I have to choose from is "Embedded". It does too... Using a PC did not even cross my mind Once you update Photoshop and Bridge by doing Help>Updates in main photoshop menu, everything will work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted December 12, 2006 Share #27 Posted December 12, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) He also showed me the new Adobe Camera RAW update and how to apply it to the M8 files to override the camera profile and auto WB every image. Does this work if you don't use bridge, but just open the raw files in PhotoShop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmith Posted December 12, 2006 Share #28 Posted December 12, 2006 Does this work if you don't use bridge, but just open the raw files in PhotoShop? Yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_peter_m Posted December 12, 2006 Share #29 Posted December 12, 2006 The ACR Calibration trick doesn't work on a Mac, btw. The only camera profile I have to choose from is "Embedded". Andy, I assume you tried with DMR files? It seams the options you get vary from camera to camera, I am sure Rob could check if you get the same profile option for the DMR that you get for the M8. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted December 13, 2006 Share #30 Posted December 13, 2006 Here is an example of stretching camera capabilities to its limits. Shot during a fashion show, 1 sec exposure, handheld. Second picture - multiple halogen spots mixed with day light. Both photos: 2.8/28 Zeiss Biogon ZM (courtesy of fotografz) Hmmm. Note to self: get gigs in Siberia Andy--the ACR update indeed varies by camera type. The DMR only shows "embedded" camera profile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted December 13, 2006 Share #31 Posted December 13, 2006 Note to self get out of the corporate world. Need to look at something better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilliamsphotography Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share #32 Posted December 13, 2006 Hmmm. Note to self: get gigs in Siberia Andy--the ACR update indeed varies by camera type. The DMR only shows "embedded" camera profile. Yeah, I was suprised that my 2 Canons each showed a different Camera Raw version, but neither were the embedded profile. Irakly said ARC would select the correct one for each camera, 3.6 for the M8, but 2.something for my 1DsMKII, and 3.3 for my 5D. I haven't tried the DMR yet, but it sounds like it just reverts to the embeded profile. Interesting. Note to self: Take Irakly up on the offer to go with him to Russia. Second note to self: don't show wife Irakly's chick pics, or I won't be going anywhere with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted December 13, 2006 Share #33 Posted December 13, 2006 I must be missing something. What was this ACR trick supposed to do? I have the latest ACR and it doesn't seem to perform any differently than it ever did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilliamsphotography Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share #34 Posted December 13, 2006 How are you using it? Did you select it under the "Calibrate" tab, then using Auto WB, then saving that as the new Camera Raw Default? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted December 13, 2006 Share #35 Posted December 13, 2006 Yeah, I was suprised that my 2 Canons each showed a different Camera Raw version, but neither were the embedded profile. Irakly said ARC would select the correct one for each camera, 3.6 for the M8, but 2.something for my 1DsMKII, and 3.3 for my 5D. I haven't tried the DMR yet, but it sounds like it just reverts to the embeded profile. Interesting. This is probably because the DMR produces a DNG file which is transparent to ACR ... and the profiles ACR picks up for any other models are tied to the date/version when support of that specific camera model was added. Mind you ... ADOBE will provide a free public beta of Photoshop CS3 for download on this Friday. Have fun ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted December 13, 2006 Share #36 Posted December 13, 2006 This is probably because the DMR produces a DNG file which is transparent to ACR ... and the profiles ACR picks up for any other models are tied to the date/version when support of that specific camera model was added. Mind you ... ADOBE will provide a free public beta of Photoshop CS3 for download on this Friday. Have fun ... Doesn't PS see M8 files the same way? Are DMR and M8 files identical, apart from the EXIF stuff? (I am thinking that Apple might support the M8 but not the DMR if the files are not the same...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted December 13, 2006 Share #37 Posted December 13, 2006 Andy, do you still remember the long tedious thread on 8-bit vs. 16-bit? ... Leica obviously has adopted a new approach in the formation of M8 DNG files but still complies to the DNG standard. Back on your topic, there have long been many rumors surrounding Aperture, Apple and Adobe's relationships etc on various Mac enthusiasts' web sites ... we've heard that Apple had fired the whole team working on Aperture, chances that Adobe would drop a certain product on Mac platform etc. ... while it's almost impossible for an average Joe like me to figure out which is what, I do tend to believe that the lack of Aperture support on M8/DMR files is not due to any technical issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbegibson Posted December 13, 2006 Share #38 Posted December 13, 2006 Doesn't PS see M8 files the same way? Are DMR and M8 files identical, apart from the EXIF stuff? QUOTE] Flexcolor will open DMR DNG's but will not open M8 DNG's. C1LE will open M8 DNG's but won't open Imacon DNG's. Has anyone found a way to open M8 DNG's with Flexcolor or open Imacon DNG's with C1LE? Thanks, Robbe Gibson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide.angle Posted December 13, 2006 Share #39 Posted December 13, 2006 Note to self: lift jaw off ground. Thanks Irakly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted December 13, 2006 Share #40 Posted December 13, 2006 How are you using it? Did you select it under the "Calibrate" tab, then using Auto WB, then saving that as the new Camera Raw Default? Yes, I have been doing that since I got the DMR a few years ago. Can't remember which version it started with. My desktop PC is currently ver 3.3 of Camera RAW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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